86 Hilux Surf

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I'm corresponding with a friend on facebook who cannot get up a muddy hill. Does anyone know if an 86 Hilux Surf has low range? Please excuse my ignorance - I drive a Nissan.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 06:10

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 06:10
An 86 hilux certainly does, would imagine a surf would too as they are basically the same.
Does he have the front hubs locked (if fitted), tyre type/tread ok for terrain?
There are lots of variables like driver experience etc.
Does he NEED to drive up that particular hill?
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 08:00

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 08:00
It sounds like he's been stuck for a while :-) Let some air out of the tyres?
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 08:41

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 08:41
Thanks all. Yep, I have suggested all those things. I would say it is standard - including tyres. It's a borrowed car to get onto a property so yeah, the hill is necessary. They are a group of musos having a writing week away from it all - not keen 4WDers so no experience. He wasn't sure if the car had low range - hence my question - I'm not familiar with the car. They nearly made it so if they can engage low range I reckon they'll be okay. It sounds like it's not too extreme - just a bit of inexperience. If anyone can shed any light on the system on that vehicle that would be great. Thanks
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Follow Up By: braggy - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 09:10

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 09:10
I think manual locking front hubs on them
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 09:31

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 09:31
I was wondering about that. Can anyone explain the 'how to' easily so I can pass it on. I'm not there and I have never owned a vehicle with that kind of system. Thanks
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:08

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:08
This has to be done to both front wheels.

In the centre of each front wheel is the hub.
On the hub are the words lock and Free, or something similar.

To engage the front hubs, grab hold of the moveable disk, centre piece, that is currently lined up with Free, and turn it to Lock.

I imagine they will engage low range by moving the second lever that is next to their gear lever into low range. There should be a diagram on the top of this to make it happen.

Tim
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:17

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:17
Thank you Tim. You might just make a bunch of young thrash artists very happy. ;-)
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Follow Up By: splits - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:20

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:20
There is a photo of a free wheeling hub on this link.free wheeling hub

The Surf will most likely have them. You simply turn the "dial" in the centre by hand until the arrow lines up with the word "locked".

For low range, pull the transfer case straight down then across to the right as far as it will go and forward again. The positions for the lever should be clearly marked on the lever knob.

This will give him low range but it may still not be enough. Lower tyre pressures will lengthen the tyre "foot print" and should help considerably but there are times when you just can't get up a particular hill no matter what you do.
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:32

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:32
Thanks splits. I have passed on your info too.
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:49

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:49
IF they have got around to reducing their tyre pressures, they obviously need a way of pumping them back up to regular pressure again. Or alternatively, drive slowly to the nearest service station.

How do they tell what pressure they are at?
What does low pressure look like on the tyre?
What is a safe speed to travel with reduced tyre pressures?
What is 'reduced'?
What is a tyre pressure gauge?


All these are questions Facebook cannot answer. Lets hope they get back safely. The risk of tyre damage from driving at highway speed with low tyre pressure is very high. Tyre damage can lead to blowouts, made worse by a tired driver after a weekend of thrashing. Not what we want to hear about.

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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26
Thanks Tim, it's only about 100 metres of dirt. The tricky bit is about 10 metres. They won't be doing any highway driving at high speed. Basically, they just need to get up a driveway. Thanks for your concern I have absolute confidence they wouldn't do anything dumb. That's why they came to me in the first place. If my car didn't have a broken spring I'd take a drive and take them through myself.

As for any further attempts engaging 4WD will probably be about it - I don't think they'll bother with the tyre deflation anyway. They have abandoned it anyway until tomorrow now to see if conditions improve. They are just bummed that this session they have been planning for months has been marred. Oh well.
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 13:02

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 13:02
No spirit, these young people of today!!

And what's with a Nissan owner not being ready willing and able to pull out a Toyota owner. Epic fail there.

What's the world coming too?


(This post is tongue in cheek should anyone choose to take offence)
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 16:28

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 16:28
Tee hee! - Imagine that 'ey and all on Australia - no ocker spirit. Who would have thought a bunch of hard rockers would be so responsible. What is the world coming to indeed.
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Follow Up By: Bowks - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 16:31

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 16:31
Oops - I mean - * Australia Day
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Reply By: sweetwill - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 14:13

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 14:13
Bowks.
just a thought, tell them to take it out of 4x4 when up the hill.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 18:22

Saturday, Jan 26, 2013 at 18:22
Chances are if they don't know its got low range, they probably havn't engaged 4wd.

so low range and the front hubs locked in might just see em drive the 10 meters.

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Follow Up By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Monday, Jan 28, 2013 at 19:15

Monday, Jan 28, 2013 at 19:15
Well what happened???? Did they make OK

Jeff
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