Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 17:03
G'day Brian
You don't say which of the Brunswick Diesel engines you are running in your Troop Carrier and if the vehicle already has an engine oil cooler fitted as what was normal practice with a Brunswick conversion.
I also own and operate a 75 series Troop Carrier, with a 6.2 Chev diesel ~ my vehicle was one of the first in
Newman to have the transplant done sometime back in 1993/4
Troop Carrier ~ 75 series
The engine conversion came with a small engine oil cooler unit and that was about it as far as it went, my vehicle also had cooling system issues, so I began a process of up grading so I could eliminate what I thought was an over temperature problem.
One of the very first things I changed was the position of the Brunswick fitted oil cooler, from it sitting alongside the radiator/cowel to a position behind the air flow of the engine driven fan ~ in essence the cooler now sits in a direct air flow, I also replaced the engine oil pan/sump to the larger military version 10 litre unit.
I also replaced the Standard Toyota viscose hub fan, that in my opinion was inadequate for the amount of air flow required to push the hot engine bay air out of the now very "full" engine bay area ~ I machined up a mounting spigot that bolts directly to the Toyota waterpump pulley drive member and adapted an 8 blade all steel Holden Commodore fan ~ I also designed and manufactured an all Aluminium fan cowel as the Commodore fan has a larger sweep area compared to the Toyota fan.
The air being pulled through the radiator and subsequently pushed out of the engine bay is far more than the standard Toyota fan set up could ever displace.
One of the last things I changed was the radiator itself, I down sized the number of cooling tubes from the standard configuration of three rows of cooling tubes, to a two row ~ yes two rows of cooling tubes ~ giving the radiator a more open air flow and slightly larger capacity with larger tanks top and bottom.
The Troopy is my wifes daily drive but admittedly not always towing, but the vehicle is fully equipped for its role as the Mule for my tours.
I monitor top coolant tank temperature and also the bottom tank coolant temperature via two seperate VDO gauges ~ the standard indash Toyota gauge is not used at all.
The engine oil temperature is also monitored by VDO.
The Chev runs at a "normal" 89 degrees C ~ Yes this is its normal operating temperature and with a fully sealed and pressurized cooling system, it will happily run up to 115 degrees C and not have a over temperature problem.
6.2 Chev diesel
These Chev Diesels run a normal 90 degrees C.
Safe travels :
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:28
Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:28
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your reply some great suggestions there that I have not done and that I am in the throes of doing. Unlike yourself I have to get other to do it for me and that is my trouble trying to get these coolers moved outside.
vdo oil temp and pressure
My engine is a 6.5 and 4 years old. I have VDO gauge monitoring water and Vdo Gauge monitoring oil as extras. When towing a 3.3 ton van I get concerned when the water gets over 105c and the oil goes to 115c especially on the hills. We have to turn the air-conditioning off to try and keep it below these.The oil cooler is presently where Brunswick fitted it. I will also look into the military sump as we had been tossing this around and did not know that you could get one off the shelf . Will get onto Brunswick Tuesday.
The reason I going for the outside option is have had a friend who had it done but his mate did this for him a few years ago and is no longer available to do it.
The bonnet scoop is excellent idea where did you have your done.
Have tossed around the idea of moving the airconditioning condenser up on to the top of the roof. Like you we are going to slowly ( money allowing) do a few of these options.
Thanks for your infomation
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:31
Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:31
Just to add to Joe's post. I used a genuine 2 core Aluminium Toyota radiator from a later model 1HD-FTE powered cruiser. Part number 1640017360. This radiator had a 33% gain of tube surface area to the coolant over the original. I extended the fan shroud to suit the new radiator.
It ran cooler due to it running a 1hz thermostat at 80c.
My oil cooler was the same as Joe's as
well.
RA.
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Follow Up By: Red Tail Black (WA) - Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:54
Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 18:54
Thanks Rockape,
We had a new radiator put in by Brunswick when they put the engine in but might have to look into that area again as
well.
cheers Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe F (WA) - Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 22:57
Sunday, Jan 27, 2013 at 22:57
G'day Brian and all the other Troopy owners.
Brian, the two core radiator I had made for my Cruiser is actually a "Thicker" unit than the three or four row (tropical radiators).
The two rows of core tubes are signigicantly larger than all the other core tube designs, the two row unit has slightly oval tubes and by their alignment have a large surface area, the radiator core fins are almost like louvres but very thin so the heat transfer is over a fairly large area.
I still run the original air con condenser as Mr Toyota fitted it, there has never been an issue with the air conditioner shutting down as the engine coolant temperature rose to or above the factory set cut out point ~ as we all know the Troopy cabin is vast and requires a properly working system to keep it cool.
The bonnet scoop is a waste of time ~ don't go there ~ the fact that it is forward facing defeats the pupose of it working to expel hot engine bay air.
Just a side note: I also own a 80 Series Intercooled Turbo diesel which did have air conditioner shut down issues in the
Pilbara heat, I went the way of fitting a PWR all aluminium radiator ~ problem solved.
Safe travels :
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