Buying AND SHIPPING tyres from USA

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G'day all,

I've seen a few posts about buying tyres from USA, but nothing recently. I am in the market for 3 tyres for my caravan (265/75R15 LT's) and the tyre prices in USA are MUCH cheaper than here in Oz.

The company I normally deal with for shipping from USA (Goopping) have a 150 pound weight limit and cannot handle my 3 tyre order (The 3 tyres will weigh approx 111 pounds, but 'shipping weight' due to the size of the package is nearer to 250 lbs). It will not be economical to ship out in 2 or 3 packages.

Does anyone know of an economical shipping alternative for larger packages - without going overboard on containers etc?

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Reply By: Penchy - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 13:40

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 13:40
Tire Rack will sort it all out for you. Just email an equiery and go from there.
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Follow Up By: wozzie (WA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 15:00

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 15:00
I agree, got them to send me 3 tyres 2 years ago and with Air Express to my door, (Fedex) the landed price was still quite a bit cheaper than buying the tyres here, and it only took 8 days from when they left the US to get here.

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http://www.tirerack.com/



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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:17

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:17
It's mind-boggling to me that you can have three tires shipped by air from the US to your address in Oz, and it's considerably less expensive than just going to a nearby tyre shop!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 18:22

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 18:22
dare i say it...... for one most America is flat broke so not exactly a good example .....
And 2 why not just pay the extra and then the "nearby tyre shop" will still be there when you are desperate for a tyre and they may well have a job for ya kids, more we support overseas the more jobs we lose for our kids here, unless we ship em over there i guess .......

Ok i said it, will run for cover :-)

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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 18:28

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 18:28
Maybe no GST will be paid, certainly no company tax goes into our govt coffers, no warranty, all for maybe $50 a tyre?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:45

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:45
No flak from me Joe!!!

Often wonder what all this o/s buying will do in the long term. We might be paying out a lot more than we think with loss of jobs and a future life for the kids.

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Follow Up By: Penchy - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 20:59

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 20:59
I agree, buying OS has to have some sort of an impact locally. But if its cheaper for us to source it from OS then to buy it here, then the local distributers must be making plenty off the people buying locally?
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 15:27

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 15:27
That's not right Penchy. The charges you can get in Australia are governed by your expenses and your turnover. If you don't have the turnover then you have to charge more. The expenses are basically fixed. The US has massively more population so the turnover is way higher. Their expenses would be similar to ours from what I have seen. Simply this means an Australian shop has to make more on each item just to keep its door open and cover expenses. I don't know many small business owners here that are doing well anymore. I weep when I hear allegations of gouging because the price is way lower in another country. You need rocks in your head to own a business here now....I have some rocks in my head, do you want to buy any? :-)
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 22:14

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 22:14
Sorry Mike, but I dont agree with that comment either. Why is Bob Jane for example, selling the same brand, size, type ect tyre to John Smith, for a very similar price to some small one stop tyre shop on the corner of your street. When Bob Jane has a massive buying power compared to the smaller shop? Fixed cost and variable cost do not come into it. Retailers will take into account their cost to buy, hold and sell stock to determine their sell price to consumers. If retailers are setting sales prices based on your theory, I'm sure the ACCC would be interested to hear it.
This topic is hi-jacking the thread somewhat so I guess wozzie can make his/her own mind up.
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Follow Up By: wozzie (WA) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:27

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:27
It was'nt really my post, was just commenting on the earleir parts of the thread.


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Follow Up By: Penchy - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:27

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:27
yeh sorry, glids I meant lol.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mad Dog - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 10:32

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 10:32
I buy as much as I can from the states or England for that matter, as a rule it arrives quicker than any East Coast company can get it to me (perth) The service is top notch in every transaction. I can see the point of supporting Australian businesses but the only way to force change to the governments tax system is to work around it, as a nation I believe we pay to much for a large number of consumer goods simply because of the governments greed. I do check prices for the locals first and weigh up freight costs etc but will buy offshore if I can see the value for me.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:40

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:40
No worries, you will be used to it when we have to buy everything direct from overseas. I'm not even saying that is a bad thing but I wonder what we will actually be doing for jobs at that stage since our money will be making other countries rich. Government greed is not that much of a problem as they are required to give the money back to us via services such as roads, schools and hospitals. If they don't then we can boot them out. If we become dependant on other countries for goods and services because ours have shut shop then that's a worry.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 20:25

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 20:25
Government greed. Lol. The real wonder is that some Australians really believe they are hard done by. If we all worked around "the tax system" (cash economies, black markets etc) we'd end up exactly like Greece.
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Reply By: hazo - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 15:17

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 15:17
I recently imported an item to oz from the US. Weight or size is not an issue but it does come by sea freight so can take a while.
Mine took exactly 12 weeks from order to delivery at Fremantle WA.

The company I used was USAtoAus.com they have a local agent in oz and all monies are paid on delivery to the port just prior to collection.

My item weighed over 150kg and was a pallet size overall.

I did have to pay freight from the manufacturer to the company's depot in Washington state.

Their main business is shipping cars but they happily ship virtually anything !

Overall a painless experience and as my item was over $3K US I did have to pay the dreaded gst on the final invoice total.

Actual import cost was $200 au. plus the freight in usa and insurance plus gst.

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Reply By: Puttingdave00 - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:03

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:03
Just go to the local tyre dealers and get a price, select the best deal and go with that, 1st you are supporting the local economy and 2nd a lot less stress, and 3rd all you will save is a carton of beer
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:23

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:23
You obviously haven't bothered to investigate the savings Puttingdave.
In my opinion, tyres of 15" and 16" diameter may not give big savings but anything over that could well be.
When I bought 5 Goodyear DuraTracs in 17" diameter from Tirerack I saved around $500 on the set and that included US $449 in air freight by FedEx and delivery to my door in around 8-10 days.
Some of the newer cars with 18", 19" and even bigger will give even bigger savings with a much greater range of tyres to choose from.
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Follow Up By: Puttingdave00 - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:10

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:10
I really don't care where you buy your tyres, but if you buy locally if something goes wrong I'm sure the "Local Bloke" will help you out, also remember when your kids or more importantly your grand kids cannot get a job go and have a look in the mirror and work out the reason why.
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 10:20

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 10:20
Rubbish Dave.
Where do you think all the tyres are being made? Certainly not in Oz.
I know a couple of tyre guys and the money made per tyre is very little.
They make more on fitting, balancing and wheel aligning than they do on selling the tyres in many instances.
The real issue here in Oz is the importer who makes a killing.
When I was looking at a specific size of 17" tyre I had a range of about 6 brands and none were what I really wanted and one that would have been acceptable (barely) was being priced at $360 per tyre.
Exactly the same tyre at Tirerack is US $150 and Tirerack are still making a profit at that price.
When checking Tireracks range of tyres in the size I wanted I had 50+ tyres to choose from so I chose exactly the tyre I wanted.
Even with US $449 in air freight and I also allowed for GST but didn't get charged it in the end I still came out in front.
There are also some local tyre companies quietly parallel importing from the USA.
I refuse to be gouged with prices from importers that will charge "what the market will bear" as the world is a lot different place today regarding the ability to find out what a product is actually worth and not what an importer wants to charge me.
I have no issues with a company making a profit, I do have issues with overpricing.
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Reply By: Member - john y - Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:33

Friday, Feb 01, 2013 at 19:33
To think we just celebrated Australia Day. Surely we should be looking at supporting Local businesses more. Who would you go to if you needed a tyre in a hurry? That business may not be there to help in the future if we continue to source goods from overseas when the cost differences are minimal. I am sure there are many who have saved money by sourcing from overseas but I also know of many others who have had their fingers burnt with little or no recourse.

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Follow Up By: Nutta - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 15:49

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 15:49
A post or so back it is mentioned that the shops make bugger all anyway on a tyre and make more on fitting, so if we import and get the local shop to fit what is the problem, the shop should be happy with that.
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Reply By: Batt's - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 01:19

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 01:19
Yes it's good to support local businesses but when you are ripped off like we often are why not shop around I'm thinking of getting a set from the US as well. Lots of people are buying all kinds of products off the net every day so why not tyres
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Follow Up By: wozzie (WA) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:51

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:51
The tyres in question were Michellin 265/70 15" LTX A/T ones, and were less than 1/2 the price in Australia.



After I paid for the shipping, delivery and for the 3 tyres, it worked out that I got the 3 tyres for the price of 2.



At the time I was being quoted $370.00 each in Australia.



Currently am being quoted around $320 ~ $340 ea for Michellin 31x10.50 LTX A/T2.



Just go and have a look at that site and see the difference. Slightly more than a "Slab"



I too lament the fact that this is so, having been in retail for some 35 years myself, however I feel we are getting the short straw here, where this is concerned, and I'm not blaming the tyre retailers.



Like many here, I just cannot afford to throw money away needlessly, when there is such a difference.



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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 04:17

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 04:17
$179- USD Wozzie, half the price of here.
Even with freight added still be a big difference!!

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 03:26

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 03:26
It's very dependent on the individual tyre required.
I have been going through the motions/costing's also and have found I can buy a BFG KM2 Muddy for $250 USD which given the current exchange rate is around the same in Aus dollars.
The deciding factor is freight and that brings the tyre up above $300 AUD.
I can buy the same tyre online via Ebay from Australian sellers delivered for about the same price, pending on number of tyres bought without the hassle or risk of importing.

Check out the sellers on Ebay, very competitive pricing!

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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 08:29

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 08:29
The other thing is that probably due to our smaller market tyre manufacturers don't supply the full range in Oz. Lots of popular tyres are available in larger sizes with higher load indexes than what is available locally.
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Follow Up By: glids - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:37

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:37
Your are right about the range available locally Peter.

I particularly want high load rating tyres for the caravan (single axle), and there are many to choose from in the States at 112 rating - but very few here.

I support Oz products and Oz farmers where I can, but tyres no longer seem to be manufactured in Oz - well in the size and load rating I want, anyway. I don't see why my hard earned bucks should go to someone ripping us off!

Thanks for the constructive suggestions from folks.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 13:48

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 13:48
Very good point Peter.

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