Jaffle irons

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We love our jaffles when out in the bush, but my health aware daughter has asked me if the old alloy jaffle irons are "safe", as in "Do they contain aluminium or any other unhealthy metals??".
I prefer the old alloy jaffle irons as they heat up more quickly than the cast iron models that are sold nowadays. However, I'm not one to cross my daughter so if anyone knows which metals were generally used in the older style alloy jaffle irons, I'd be grateful for the info.
Thanks
Peter
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:19

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:19
Hi Peter,

The older Jaffle irons were made of aluminium.

Very interesting subject. there was a study carried out into Alzheimer’s in England many years ago. They did not find elevated levels of aluminium in the brains of the deceased patients as everyone expected but insted found elevated levels of copper in many of the patients.

Aluminium is one of the most common minerals on the planet and the human body cannot live without it.

If no sharp implements are used to get the Jaffle out of the Jaffle iron, therefore not scraping aluminium off the iron, I cannot see how it would make a difference to our health, as we would not be ingesting it.

We also have one of the aluminium type of Jaffle irons.

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Follow Up By: Dr Hook - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:05

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:05
Bruce:
Now I'm confused: I was brought up on jaffles made on the OLDER cast-iron jaffle irons (both round and the later, square ones), until Mum found these new-fangled aluminium ones (in the mid-late '60's, from memory).
I'vew been using my own since the early '70's and find they don't stick to the bread as much as the older iron ones, so my vote is for "ally". With the iron ones, you probably absorb minute amounts of iron and as a result, always point North and probably deflect your hand-held compass as well.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 17:47

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 17:47
Hi Dr. Hook,
I still use mums old aluminium single Jaffle Iron which she used to use back when I was a kid in the early 50s. Mum used to make the jaffles on the old Meters Early Kooka elevated oven gas stove. All cast iron and on the slender Queen Anne style legs.

I know we used to look foward to her making them which was not as often as we would have liked. LOL.

I was under the impression that the newer ones were cast iron so now I am confused as well.

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Follow Up By: Dr Hook - Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:09

Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:09
Yair Bruce: the older pre-WW11 Cast Iron ones were usually round and not hinged: the two halves hooked together instead, and could be separated.
Black iron (well "conditioned" with decades of melted butter) - just like a camp oven.

I remember we had a double-round one, a round one and I'm sure I recall a square one. (pretty weird, 'coz we couldn't buy sliced bread/sandwich loaves at the time, just "hi-top" loaves). With Hi-top in the round jaffle, all the crust burned off so you only had to eat the inner part of the bread. Trouble was, the bread didn't seal together as well as the sandwich crust, so you always ended up leaking the melted cheese onto your hand!

From memory, ours broke when dropped on the cement: that's why Mum had to buy the new-fangled post-War Aluminium ones.
Now I jusrt use my square (1-double, 1-single) allly ones and electric ones at home and at the shack.

Isn't progress marvellous??!?

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Reply By: Rockape - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:25

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:25
It is an urban myth. Go the jaffles cooked on aluminium.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:45

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 18:45
More like an idea that has been pretty thoroughly discredited - is that aluminium has anything to do with causing Alzheimers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:02

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:02
Yep, you are right RA, it is an urban myth. This aluminium in cooking thing was a myth put out by the marketers of that Rena Ware range of cooking pots they used to flog years ago. You may recall they placed one on top of the other and the heat from the bottom one cooked the contents of the second one etc. etc. and if you showed any resistance to their sales pitch they would start attacking your credibility. Got shown the door super quick.

Val,
that report carried out in England on deceased Alzheimer sufferers debunked that aluminium myth for all time.
But the findings re copper was interesting. I started my plumbing trade in the early sixties and we were very busy replacing gal pipe water services with copper ones. After a couple of years we were not using gal in water services at all. There may be some connection re the timing of the introduction of copper.
If we want to kill certain bugs in the cattle troughs we use copper sulphate, or whatever it is called, blue crystals derived from copper.

One day they might find a connection there between copper and Alzheimers..
Who knows.

On the other hand I may just have started another urban myth. LOL.

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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 20:38

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 20:38
Stay away from aluminium at all costs!
I’ve been drinking beer out of aluminium cans for 50 years now and the wife says my brain is completely stuffed.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:51

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:51
so must your taste buds. Beer from can is rubbish.
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 15:26

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 15:26
Mate - never tasted a bad beer in my life, canned or bottled.
In London a few years ago the poms were selling it at Tesco’s in 1 litre plastic PET bottles – good stuff.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:02

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:02
Beer straight of a 50 litre can (9 or 18 gallons when I was younger) has always gone down well with me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:08

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:08
Hey Dennis, your wife might be right. Hahahaha.

Beer from Tescos??? Was there any horse meat in it.??? LOL

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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 22:25

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 22:25
When we were in London the POMs had a mad cow disease epidemic.
The missus caught it – been as mad as a hatter ever since.
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 20:54

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 20:54
I've been using my aluminium Jaffle iron when camping for 41 years - I'd use it for 42 years if I could remember where I put it !


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Reply By: Member - Rosss - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 22:23

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2013 at 22:23
Just don't let the missus decide to make popcorn in an aluminium jaffle iron in a roaring fire, you only get the handles back Now off to get a new one.

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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 00:29

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 00:29
the dangers of aluminimum have loooooooong be ebunked but the myth remains

it came about in blood transplant patiants who throught the process it greatly concentrated the water used and also the aluminimum in the water to massivly more times than could otherwise be possible. it gave rise to alzeimers LIKE symptoms which went away when the problem was rectified and changes made

but yet still now in 2013 the myth continues
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 00:31

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 00:31
oh and like i loooove telling these myth perpetuaters who love spreading myths about all these new things that will kill you

"and yet somehow we keep living longer and longer"
enough said
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Reply By: Member - Dalb (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:03

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:03
Bugger! I thought I had the last aluminium jaffle 'iron' in existence - used it for at least 30 years....
I have been looking for another one for many ages without success.

Would someone out there please put them back on the market!

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Reply By: Trevor G - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:59

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:59
Like most things in life to do with health, I always put it down to the Mack truck theory.

The theory is no matter what you do, eat or drink, if a Mack truck crosses to your side of the road all other theories are obsolete. Moderation is the key

Trev
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:37

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 18:37
Trev,
a little piece on how the theory works in reverse.

Mate was trundling along in his R model Mack, on a bend a drunk in a little Datsun station wagon comes across the road and takes out the Macks steering.

Drunk in Datsun fine. Mate was lucky or unlucky to survive depending how you look at life and his injuries.

RA.

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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 20:55

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2013 at 20:55
Shape is more important to us, Square or round

Square uses the bread better, but has corners were the filling doesn't get to, Round you get an even amount of filling but waste more bread
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Follow Up By: petengail - Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 19:58

Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 19:58
Depends I guess if the filling or the bread is more expensive!
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 21:57

Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 21:57
or which tastes the best!
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Reply By: The Bantam - Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 23:45

Thursday, Feb 21, 2013 at 23:45
There is an eliment of truth to the aluminium thing.

My wife is a dyalisis nurse of nearly 20 years.....there are all sorts of issues with various metals getting into high concentrations in the blood......in her work they measure concentrations of all sorts of stuff in both blood and water on a very regular basis.
AND they have to know what the proven side effects are

Yes aluminium in the blood stream can cause certain brain defects and malfunctions......but people with healthy kidneys are perfectly capable of getting rid of the stuff adequately.

Most people will not understand that there is aluminium used in treating almost all drinking water......ALUM...potasium aluminium sulphate..is used as a floculant in most dringking water filtration processes...makes the dirt clump and fall out of suspension.
Traces exist in all drinking water.
Aluminium is found in fairly high concentraions in soil in most of northern Australia.

You'll also find it in antiperspirant and toothpase among other things.



If wana want to stur your daughter up, have a look at the issues arround the use of stanless steel in cooking untensils, especially in ovens and frypans.....there are known issues with the nickle and chromiumm

A lot of the alternative types are very pro cast iron......thats all fine & beaut.......but what do we know about foreign metals in the cast iron comming out of china, where most of our cast iron cooking gear comes from......much of it will be made from scrap metal and who knows what it was contaminated with

Tell her to lighten up and eat her jaffle...it will be btter for her than the junk food from the city.

OH here is one for the Vegitarians......one product that has been known to have very high levels of aluminium...levels that could be a problem.. is .....Soy milk


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Follow Up By: poitr - Friday, Feb 22, 2013 at 06:42

Friday, Feb 22, 2013 at 06:42
Bantam and others,
Looks like you've given me all the ammo I need and we can keep using our trusty alloy jaffle iron. However, she's no vegitarian and likes nothing better than ham and cheese.
Now I suppose I'll just have to go through the 20 questions on which is better, a square or round jaffle.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - G.T. - Tuesday, Feb 26, 2013 at 13:49

Tuesday, Feb 26, 2013 at 13:49
Bantam ,you have me interested in the issue(s) that stainless steel fry pans have.We purchased an electric stainless steel fry pan in lieu of a `non stick`coated one on the strength that the `non stick` coating could in extreme instances could contaminate what you are cooking.
Now we are wondering if we have made a wise decision or not. Any info you may have would be appreciated. Regards G.T.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Feb 26, 2013 at 17:08

Tuesday, Feb 26, 2013 at 17:08
There is an issue with just about every cooking utensil material known.

Yes there is a claimed issue with teflon or other plasics contaminating your food......yeh well.

The issue with stanless is, it is steel that contains Nickle and Chromium......under heating the surface of the stanless breaks down and oxidises......releasing nickle and cromium compounds like Chromium dioxide..somthing or other chromate and who knows what else.

How bad the problem is and what temperature this happens at, well good question.

Over heat most vegitable oils and they produce carcenogenic products.

Burnt meat contains carcenogens....so Cagun food must be deadly.


So how far are ya gona take this.
I have relatives that will not fry or bake in stanless, they certainly will not have a non stick frypan.

So I ask em how pure they think their chinese cast iron is.

Most people have more problem effecting their health than the metals they cook in......its not like we cook in lead pots.

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