Nissan Brake Master or Tokico
Submitted: Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 21:20
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Brake Master Cylinder was $600 odd, a PBR unit from COVS Parts was $400 odd and a PBR unit from Repco $330. I saw one on E bay for $250 with the brand Tokico. Sounds chinese. So I bought the PBR one from Repco. I was a bit surprised to see the brand Tokico on it.It also has the word Japan on it and clearly some other name ground off. It came in a PBR branded carton. I compared it to the original that I have now removed and it is branded......Tokico. It also has the words Nissan Japan on it. It is exactly the same as the PBR unit except it appears the word nissan had been ground off.
My Patrol is a 3/2005 4.2 diesel non ABS model. My conclusion is the Tokico unit available on Ebay is exactly the same for a significant saving.
Reply By: lancie49 - Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 22:57
Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 22:57
Datsun / Nissan have been using Tokico and Nabco hydraulic brake and clutch equipment for a million years, since 1963 here in Oz at least. Top quality and reliable.
Could you not get a kit for that Patrol ?
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Follow Up By: Member - kwk56pt - Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 23:14
Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 23:14
I believe the
bore is aluminium. It would have to be sleeved with stainless to be a success story. Its my only transport so I didnt look into it too hard.
Can I expect the clutch master cylinder to expire soon given it has probably had the same fluid flushes or lack of, I mean so the clutch master and the brake have similar lifespans
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Follow Up By: lancie49 - Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 23:20
Friday, Mar 01, 2013 at 23:20
Sleeving is not a terribly expensive exercise, any of the brake specialists would be able to do it. If you've still go the old unit, get a quote.
I don't think I'd be too concerned about the Clutch MC at this stage until it showed signs of weeping or bypass. Watch the Slave cylinder as
well when your climbing around underneath.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 08:21
Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 08:21
Tokico is a Japaneses autoparts manufacture producing anything and everything...... Nabco is "North American brake company" specialising in brakes much like PBR are in Austrtalia.
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 22:47
Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 22:47
I used to get
mine resleeved in stainless, it was about 80 - 100 bucks from memory.
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Reply By: Ross M - Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 00:58
Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 00:58
Tokico is Japanese and therefore good quality. Far better than PBR.
The brake cylinder will fail because it doesn't get flushed and when the pads wear the seals find the corroded bit and chew them, then they leak down and or fail.
The clutch MC, although it is used jsut as often is mostly run to near its full extant and therefore cleans it's own path all the time. It can also fail from corrosion but often wears the rubbers from the amount of cylinder length travelled during it's life span.
Sometimes it is cheaper for PBR to aquire from other manufacturers and grind off or remark with their symbol.
No one company is going to make all types for all vehicles.
Any Good Japanese system if regularly flushed will last 25 years and at least 250,000km of use. Not uncommon in Toyotas. "IF" serviced.
Ross M
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Follow Up By: Member - kwk56pt - Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 22:22
Saturday, Mar 02, 2013 at 22:22
Thanks for your reply. I have only begun to appreciate the issues with not flushing the brake system. I did wonder how much longer the parts would last if the brake fluid was regularly flushed and you have answered that. I did buy a Mityvac to bleed the brakes and as this is now easy and inexpensive I will do regular fluid flushes.
Any idea how long I can expect the high pressure power steering hose to last before it need replacing.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Sunday, Mar 03, 2013 at 13:08
Sunday, Mar 03, 2013 at 13:08
kwk56pt
The high pressure hoses on a power steering system only have higher pressure in them when and only when you are turning the wheels.
If it is harder to turn eg against a gutter then the pressure will be higher.
The maximum pressure is achieved when you are on full lock and the steering cannot move anymore or the when the wheels are physically prevented from turning.
When either of these situations is happening the High pressure hydraulic relief valve will be forced open by the systems maximum pressure.
This heats the oil quickly as all input energy isn't turning wheels and is converted to heat in the oil.
Avoid this situation wherever possible because the system is being held at MAX pressure for no reason.
Again the hoses will last long time.
Ross M
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