Shock Absorber Recommendation Needed.

I am about to replace a set of shocks to the rear of a 2008 model Troopy.
My mechanic says Old Man Emu have a good name but has never used them personally.
Troopys are a rough ride, more so on unsealed corrugated gravel – do better shocks give a softer ride than the original Toyota’s?
Any help appreciated
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Reply By: Smouch - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 23:31

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 23:31
Bilstiens.
And yes, better shocks can very well give a better ride, particularly on corrugations, big bumps and holes.
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Follow Up By: Member - OnYaBike - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 23:51

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 23:51
Best thing I ever did was put a decent set of shocks on the Rodeo. Don't notice the difference around town but get on the gravel with dips, humps and corrugations and a load on board and they're worth their weight in gold.
I did a couple of Cape York trips with the standard shocks so the difference was really noticeable.
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Follow Up By: Member - Hunter Gatherer - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:12

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:12
I have had Bilsteins on my 200 series Sahara, on the way back from Cape York came loose, not being a mechanic or mechanical was told that a nut had come off and the thread in the shock was stuffed, so replaced with another Bilstein same thing happened again within 20,000k's but before the thread was ruined, was attended to and now has a spot weld on the nut to stop it from coming off again. The ride is good but i would now think twice before I bought them again, the distributor said that there was a faulty batch but didn't offer to replace the original faulty one free of charge had to pay for the second faulty one too !!
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 00:13

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 00:13
Dennis, There are shocks and shocks, and everyone will have a different opinion as to the best.
But it may be worth while reading what Mick Hutton (of Beadell Tours) has to say about shock absorbers and Koni's in particularhere.


A couple of years ago I replaced all the shocks on my Troopy as a precaution as I did not know their full history. I used Tough Dog. On the next trip at 6,000k a front one failed completely. I returned it to the supplier for inspection but could get no response. Guess which brand I will NOT be using again. Not because of the failure, it can happen, but because of zero customer service. Nah, next time I'll use Mick's Koni's. But they don't come cheap!
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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:27

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:27
X 2 for Koni shocks, we have used them on 2 different vehicles over the last 10 years, been over some horrible ground for prolonged periods with no problems at all. Koni shocks and Kings springs, the wisest choice IMHO. No affiliations with either Company, just a very happy consumer. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: Member - Grundle (WA) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 20:47

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 20:47
Hi Dennis,Will add to Allan i think they should be called weak pussies.Had them on my Nisson and did one on the Gunnbarrel,could,nt get any joy from brand distributor and had to buy ajustable,same brand more exspensive in Alice.

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Reply By: Mick O - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:22

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:22
Konis are the bees knees if you can afford them. Personally, on my heavy 79 series ute, I'm running tough dog big bore 45's adjustable. They've had 50k of rough outback tracks and off road useage and have been simply fantastic. Do a forum search for other opinions. OME....be wary.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:35

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:35
Agree with Mick, be wary of OME.

Ltr's destroyed
Nitro's destroyed

Ome springs-
Front coil - snapped and destroyed
Rear leaf- snapped.

Mick reckons he saw my ute with its front wheels in the air - I'm sure that never happened, I am gentle :)

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Follow Up By: Mick O - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:44

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:44
Corrugations will destroy OME's pretty damn quick. On one section of the Canning we ran the digital thermometer over my Patrols rear OME Nitros to find them at 157C. The Tough dogs were at 54C. The beauty of the T/D adjustables is just that, you can dial the damper down for corrugations or up when you're in lumpy stuff.

I think the spring may have been a consequence of your super dooper OME shocks failing Al. She was like a bucking bronco there for a while ;-)
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:59

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:59
Similar to Mick,
I ran adjustable t/dogs on the front and big bores on the back of the troopie. I found them very good with no problems.

A few years back they had a problem with them leaking but that was rectified. Neighbour had 3 or 4 replaced by T/d with no problem so I don't know what happened to Allen when he had a claim.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:21

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:21
Rockape,
The TD's were purchased from my service centre and the warranty lodged via them. Maybe the deficient service lies with them rather than Top Dog.
However it is a concern that your neighbour needed "3 or 4 replaced" at all. I still have 3 new TD's purchased as spares but next purchase will be Koni's methinks. I have a lot of faith in Mick Hutton's experience and skills.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:38

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:38
Allen,
I believe it was either a manufacturing or design problem. I think he sent the shocks back to either Dobinsons or T/d. He was a bit peeved about paying the postage though and I don't blame him.

Since then all has been good with his also.

I can see where you are coming from with the Koni shocks as they do have a good name.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:55

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:55
Also, if they are so darned reliable, I won't need to carry spare shocks. One less thing to pack into a very full Troopy!
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 22:05

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 22:05
Replacing my Big Bore T/D. Just hit 8yrs old. Very happy with hyow they performed.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:59

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:59
I have Koni's on my 78 Series, very happy with them.

I also have King Springs, a very different vehicle with that combination.

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Reply By: Rod W - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:37

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 09:37
My 2008, 78 series is an ex police vehicle that was used in the Halls Creek region here in WA. It came with Koni's on it and are still on it (but I've been thinking about a new set) and Lovells coil and leaf springs. The vehicle had done a mere 36,000ks. I discovered both coils were broken within the first coil up from the bottom. So it was evident the vehicle had a hard life to which the Koni's survived ( just talked me self into what I need to replace with).
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Reply By: Jeff P - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:21

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:21
Bilsteins, but dont buy the normal yellow and blue ones get the silver ones (5100 series ) and get them from the US if you can find the part number for your vehicle the distributor in Australia has sh-t service and the warrenty is the same i had a set of yellow ones and one of the bushes failed( bought in Australia) they told me I would have to buy a new one ! When I was at sema in the US I spoke to the Bilstein guys there and told them of my issue in Australia they said you must joking and sent me a set of bushes free of charge to Australia because they did not want Bilstein to get a bad name even though I never bought them the US ! You can buy two sets for the price of one here
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:18

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:18
Thanks to all responses.
I now have a fair bit of info to sort through.
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 16:25

Friday, Mar 15, 2013 at 16:25
Good thing with Koni's is you can get them rebuilt when they finally wear out. Not sure about other brands.

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