Sunday, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:39
Went down that path with my 01 Patrol and all I can say is get the exhaust first. It was far and above the best investment in improving the vehicle. I have a 3" Taipan XP and its outstanding, but
Beaudesert and a bunch of others do them also, so
shop around.
I have done lots of chip research along with a mechanic mate of
mine and reckon the Diesel Smart chip is the pick of the bunch. I think you'll find that most of the rest lean out the fuel and don't have any boost control in them and cause problems (I love the new series 5 engine in my Patrol - yes
mine went bang).
I have extracted this comment from the Patrol4x4
forum that's of great use I reckon.....
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Read the information available to you!!!!
Ignore what is on the web sites of the selling companies, what do you honestly think they are going to say? Search for independent information, preferably from people that don't have a vested interest in any of the products, and definitely not from people that have spent money on one of the brands.
DTE are a fantastic product. I used them for many years before unichip woke up and become another strong player in the aussie chip market.
They calculate RPM as a speed reference through injections periods per second (on injector chips). No other manufacturer apart from Steinbauer do this. The guys that own the two companies are good friends and went to the same tech school
There is top notch products like unichip available for a very good price.
Very good products like DTE and Steinbauer available (former very cheap, latter overly expensive for utterly the same thing)
Copy companies that sell DTE like Diesel Smart and many others that buy off the parent company cheaply, rebadge and make a profit.
Even chipit technology seems to be based on perfect power circuitry.
Perfect Power Owner worked for unichip 20 years ago, that got away with stealing many design components.
My general rule of thumb is.
Does it read RPM either through crank angle sensor or injectors?
What is the Load reference. Throttle, Boost or Fuel Pressure. #3 being the worst possible.
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With the chip, look at the number of wires coming from the module, it should be ten or more cause you need a sensing and a switching wire. This is also an interesting comment:
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All these companies are at each others throats for sale margins and percentages.
I hear things like X Brand can control this through canbus, X brand does more than X brand because it is made in Australia etc....
99.99% of this is garbage.
Just ask.
How Many Wires come out of the chip.
If its like 3-5, its a dumb chip doing very little in the way of controlling things properly.
If its 10+ Its doing a proper job of it.
Crank Sensor, Boost Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, Water Temp Sensor, Air Temp Sensor,
Fuel Pressure Sensor, Injector Signal, Power, Earth
For a chip to modify a signal it has to have an IN and and OUT wire.
So if it has
"Power
Earth
Fuel Pressure In
Fuel Pressure Out"
It has 4 wires and is one of the simplistic chips available.
In comparison to a unichip which will have 14+ on just an average setup.
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You can read it all here, theres a bit of noise about false claims, and the new Diesel Smart module is not the one in this thread, its vastly different. All the best.
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/very-interesting-find-diesel-smart-module-91349/
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Sunday, Apr 14, 2013 at 16:57
Sunday, Apr 14, 2013 at 16:57
G'day Bonz (Vic)
I read your comment about "many chips just lean out the fuel". (diesel)
Being a diesel if you give it less fuel it will make less power and torque.
if you raise the fuel injected and also match it with sufficient air, up to a point, it will develop more power and torque.
Can you explain what leaning out a diesel really means. To me it seems economy is spoken about and "leaning out" often is mentioned.
I just can't see how leaning out as mentioned ,with reference to a petrol engines leaning out, can be done on a diesel.
Cheers
Ross M
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