Comment: Cape York

sorry was out playing in the mudd .. you post ..is a bit rude ..im asking for advice more than anyting .. cap york is new for me so id rather ask question !

That was far from my aim. I took the words " new to big 4x4 trip doing " as meaning that you were not too experienced. The car was fine but you were new. Maybe I lost the real understanding because of the lack of punctuation that I am used. I understand your car is up to the task even for the Tele, Frenchmans, CREB and the Starckie. But your words troubled me so I was playing it safe.

If you have good experience in the bush then you shouldn't have any hassles. Obviously as you were insulted then this may be the case. But it is advisable to try and link up with someone for the tracks mentioned above. Especially the CREB if it is wet because of the clay on some steep sections.

Apparently others took it the same way and I was terribly disappointed and hoped that I would have the chance to talk to you.

Don't get off your horse about my reference to your grammar and punctuation skills. I do not text nor anything like that so I am used to the older styles. Fair enough???

Enjoy your trip and remember that I was just being cautious and not sending a real novice into deep water. Bye the way watch Nolans. When we went through there it was licking at the windscreen.

Obviously the usual safety things and correct tyre pressures are important and will help and lets hope the PDR is not as corrugated as when we were there a few years back.

Okay? That better and what are your off road skills.

Phil

You said you were new "new to big 4x4". That's how I answered you. Go and read it again. Especially the last sentence.

Agree with Mountainman!!!

We've been to the Cape 7 times in the past 25 years an never had a puncture. The road is as hard or as easy as you want to make it, use the PDR and you won't have to select 4WD. On the OTL you can chose to do the crossings or there are bypasses if you feel uncomfortable.

Lots of traffic up there now so if you have your own recovery gear someone will always help.

For us we avoid Nolan's as we don't want to drown our car a long way from home.

Drive to the conditions and you wont have any problems.

Mountainman (??) or whatever you name is.

At least I got a thanks so he understood me.

Such a negative attack on my whole post. Not one hint of anything that I said was correct. "sad", "pessimist" and "arm chair experts"? You really have a negative view of this forum and those using it.

For your info I have been driving off road since the 60's. And in all manner of vehicles both tracked and with tyres.

Not sad at all just realistic. His post inferred a new 4WDer so I treated it as that. He needs practical stuff.

Joining a forum is fine and reading what to do is fine but putting it into practice, in just a few weeks, what to do is another matter. How do you feel what it's like from a form when you go into a corner too fast on heavy corrugations. They cannot be "felt" from the written word. How do you "feel" on a forum that a tyre is going down. You can't feel how hard to push the tyre repair plunger into a hole to fix a leak.

All this is the main reason why I recommended to join a group.

Phil

Moderators. Criticism like I just put up doesn't help our friend. Could you please delete my post. I am not after an argument with this mountain whatever character either.

It's too nice a day to be negative.

Thanks guys

Phil

+2 mountainman. If every adventure had every possible issue accounted for with a contigency plan in place then it wouldn't be an adventure! I too am going to do a cape trip on my own - none of my mates are into 4wd touring and I'm not much into old blokes (like Phil?) in 4wd clubs who get out and inspect every bump in the road before crawling over in L1.

If the timing is right phillippe I'll send you a message and tag along. Other than that the best advice I heard was if you get to a spot that looks a bit hairy, get the chair out and have a beer and wait for the next person to come along to go over/through it and give you some assistance. Or just have a chat to some other 4wders on the way and tag along with them. Have a good trip.

that funnae..
you pretty well told the guy to stay at home if he cant find anyone to go with him !!
you should re read your posts, or you forget your glasses again !! ha ha

life isnt meant to be fun without knowing all the risks, you dont get a manual when you bring a kid into the world.......

its sad soo many people get told not to go out and see this beautifull country side because " someones been driving offroad since the 60's "
and they know better hey..
its just soo typical on this forum, new comers come to sites like this, and get bitten by the 4wd bug..
and the old timers tell them that ooh you cant do it alone, soo go sit in front of your chair and watch the tv..
what sort of life is that.. ?
everyone starts off learning, never ends..

plenty of people on the tracks these days, not that no one goes up the cape, its even more popular..

well golly i got 2 thanks to my posts, you got none..

you wont learn stuff by sitting at home, in front of the tv..
its about getting out there !!
or you learn all that stuff on a simulator ??
before you headed out ha ha..

this isnt a dig, im just sick of people shooting others down and say, ooh you better not head out bush.. you dont know anything.. or lack the experience.. how other do you learn!!
better in front of the tv.. its much safer..

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Read my initial post again.

I said "From your post I would suggest that unless you get company who are prepared to supply all your recovery kit and help you through the rough spots that you stick to the Development Road. "

That means to either go with a group or go on your own BUT if on your own stick to the Development road etc.

Ummmmm......



"So either go with a group or stay at home"

Thanks Lyn

Expletive and expletive and even more expletives.

I sincerely apologise to anyone who was polite enough to try and get me to see the error of my ways in a civil manner. Apologies to Phillippe, Lyn W3 and Penchy.

I was trying to say that if Phillippe was just a "sunday driver" and no off-road experience especially on corrugated roads then stay home until you do have at least some idea of what to do. Or go with someone.

Phil

Darn my brain being sizzled with the chemo. I have been trying to figure out where I went wrong. I didn't go wrong.

I WAS CORRECT IN WHAT I SAID.

The quote, "So either go with a group or stay at home", was in a paragraph discussing pure driving skills on dirt. Maybe the author didn't have much driving experience at all. What if he just got his licence and you lot tell him to go and he slips off the PDR because of the corrugations, rolls the car and is killed. Great advice NOT.

Phillippe may be an excellent driver or a complete novice. How do we know? Have any of you met him and personally know his skills? I think not. That's why in a forum, any forum or even in the pub, you have to be careful and not just tell them to pack their bags and go. "It's an adventure". If anything happened because they took your advice then how would you feel. I would feel shattered. But then again maybe you wouldn't care.

This is a lesson that I certainly hope my sizzled brain will NOT forget.

I was just covering all bases. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

for crying out loud! Add another post explaining your comments so I get another email telling me there was a follow up and waste my time having another look. How do we know he is a good driver? We don't! How do we know you're a good driver? We dont! So why are your comments worth more than ours? Driving since the 60's doesn't mean your a good driver, could mean you have 50 years of bad habits.
No doubt this will spur on some more follow ups - yay NOT. lol

I don't appreciate being made a fool of by illiterate people like mountain man who cannot comprehend the written word.

No more Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its a good start ..i belive i will keep you update it thanks mate !

thanks mate i will have a look should i carry one spare or two spare ? what kind of pressure you run in your tire up there ?

thanks mate im going there on my own speed and im in no rush !