TJM decent price?

Submitted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 12:42

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Philby

Hi there,

just got a quote for some TJM gear fitted but I'm not sure if the quote is any good. It's for a Diesel 2007 Prado VX by the way..

Snorkel $615
Bullbar $1900
2 inch lift (springs/shocks) $1200
Total = $3715 (inc GST)

I had thought especially the bullbar and snorkel would have been cheaper.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 13:05

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 13:05

Snorkels are about $4-500 without fitting.

Bullbar is about right as well if fitting is included.

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Follow Up By: Member - Broodie H3 - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 13:26

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 13:26

I agree with sir Kev, If you shop around a bit you may find some thing a bit cheaper but not much, Nissan put the snorkel on my Pathfinder and that only cost $200 fitted, and supposed to be genuine, but we are dealing with aftermarket product and they do seem to vary o lot in price. Good luck.

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Reply By: TTTSA - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 14:52

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 14:52

If you're not in a big hurry i've always found 4x4 shows the best place to buy the bigger ticket items.

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Reply By: wombat100 - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 15:18

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 15:18

Offer Mr TJM $3500 for the lot!!
He's gonna have the vehicle there anyway!!

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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 17:41

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 17:41

Not really much of a saving, offer them 3k and let them earn your business!

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 07:44

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 07:44

Thats after the customer earns their respect again.... or do what I do to rude customers..... tell them it's now $3900 firm, if they walk they walk.

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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 08:03

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 08:03

Is it rude to negotiate?
As i said, you will get much greater discount at a 4x4 show, and I would expect that at a show 3K wouldn't be too far from the mark.

Does anybody here accept the price you are quoted on costly items? I doubt it!

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 14:29

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 14:29

I don't negotiate price with small businesses. They need to make a dollar like the rest of us. If I think the price is reasonable, I pay in full with a smile. If I don't like the price, I'll go and "think about it".

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 19:46

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 19:46

If I think the price is reasonable and competitive I won't try to knock them down.

If you do screw someone down you have to ask yourself what is not going to be done right or how are they going to make up the lost profit.

If we have a customer who thinks in his own mind we are making a killing and riping him off we ask him what would he like us not to provide or do to help bring the price down to his affordability.

TTTSA..... if a customer came into you work and your boss gave them a discount and then your boss turned around and said to you "TTTSA seeing I gave that customer a discount I thought it would only be fair if I only paid you $5 per hour for the next 8 hours to compensate the loss."

It's a Commonwealth Bank ad thing..... " I don't think thats very fair!"

Business who rip people off or sell to cheap don't last in business very long..... businesses who make a good profit tend to last longer, provide a better service and are more eager to help the customer.

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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Friday, May 10, 2013 at 05:49

Friday, May 10, 2013 at 05:49

If TJM don't like it they can kindly say No, but how does $3,450 sound. All I was trying to say is negotiate a bit harder for a better price. Personally I just ask if they can do any better than the quoted price, if they can all well and good.

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Reply By: Member - J&R - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 19:09

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 19:09

Sounds about right on the money.
Labour intensive, and that is what costs a business the most.

Good luck with the discount proposal, but I would suggest $3000 would be seen as an insult.......but you never know.

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Reply By: 515 - Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 19:37

Wednesday, May 08, 2013 at 19:37

Philby,

I think that most people believe that the TJMs and ARM outlets have a massive mark up on items, they don't, labour cannot/will not be discounted as an example, the average 40% markup on ARB supplied product, (not on other suppliers which is much much less) so the snorkel markup would be about $171, of which they have to pay for the shop, warehousing, staff and systems, workshops advertising and those times when nobody is buying...

Snorkel
ARB - (SS181HF) Turbo Diesel snorkel $429.00 fitting $200.00 total $629.00
Bullbar
ARB - (3421410) Winch Bull bar $1671.00 fitting $300.00 total $1971.00
Suspension
ARB - OME 4 Coils, 2 Struts & 2 Nitrocharger Shocks
Medium, 150kg - 400kg & Constant 400kg Loads $1276.00 fitting $405.00 total $1681.00

Most shops do not have a plethora of fitters waiting just for your car, there is 9 hours of labour to fit everything.
Just because the vehicle is in the shop does not make fitting all these items cheaper.
You cannot put the vehicle on the hoist to fit suspension and fit a snorkel or bull bar., the same with the bull bar (some work on the hoist) and the snorkel not on a hoist.

The suggestion that the shop drop the price by over $700 is a little extreme as that is half of what the store gets to keep its doors open...

Yes you can buy cheap imported stuff, you may have issues getting it fitted or a warranty, that is your choice.

I do not work for ARB or TJM but have some connections with a stockist.

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 17:56

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 17:56

I think most people understand the end fitting prices.....but what makes people suspicious of these big companies ( and ARB is an example ) is when they sell to the Australian public at a price that's dearer than a USA price, and it's made here..

Obviously they are charging a price that the market seems prepared to pay, but the mark up from production to the market is obviously bigger than say the USA..

And the other manufacturers follow suit ..

As to the original question.......price wise you've been screwed....but not by the shop......so it's pay up or look for a cheaper option ( Ironman comes to mind )

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Follow Up By: 515 - Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 18:21

Thursday, May 09, 2013 at 18:21

Gronk,

I understand the feeling, but Australia id 22 million people in NSW there are only 480,000 registered 4WD's.

The US have 260 million people, I read somewhere that one Californian outlet sell more than the whole of ARB outlets in Australia.

That doesn't mean that Australians should pay more, but the franchises do not carry stock or order in bulk on big items, they order when you place the order, the US does order in bulk and carry stock which is why they can demand discounts etc.

I can guarantee that if you brought 20 Toyota bullbars you would get a discount. I can guarantee that not even a Toyota dealer could sell 20 x 200's in a month all wanting ARB steel bull bars.

Its not just ARB, look at all other products, DVD's Book's, Electrical equipment, all are cheaper than here in Australia, irrespective of where its built.

ARB have 600 employees in Australia, they have multiple franchises and stockist. Much of the manufacturing is Australian. I would not like to see an Iconic brand move overseas like Blunstone did.

I would prefer to have ARB export $33 million and bring in that cash than import from China and have that debt.

The only overseas production is in Thailand (like TJM) where ARB manage and supervise quality. Not China.