How good was the 100 series landcruser

Submitted: Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 14:29
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2006 Toyota Landcruiser GXL HDJ100R
$61,988*

if that over the top you can almost buy a brand new car at that price or are they worth that much

31,196 ks

Transmission 5 speed Manual

thank you for your opinion
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Reply By: EricnBeryl - Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 15:34

Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 15:34
G'day,

The 100 series was good and low mileage models continue to be highly sought after. If owned, they are jealously guarded, especially the diesel models. Provided they are diligently maintained, they give very little trouble at all. My 2005 auto diesel 100 has been a great vehicle and I wouldn't swap it for quids.

A 2006 model with the mileage quoted in your post is rare indeed. If it is the diesel and has a good history and a few useful additions like tow bar, roo bar, cargo barrier, after market suspension etc., it may well be a very good buy. However, you are right to say that you can get a very capable brand new vehicle for the same money. Glad it is not my call to make.

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Eric
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Reply By: Member - Legendts - Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 17:42

Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 17:42
Yes they are good but I'm not sure they were still making them in manual then? Could be proven wrong though and the mileage seems very low and if correct means a lot of sitting around which is not necessarily good for the mechanicals. A lot of money for a secondhand vehicle and you would almost get a 200 in petrol for that money, a bit more and diesel. If it was me, I would be looking at a 200 and the diesel is way ahead of the old 4.2 and a nicer drive too. Just my two bobs worth.
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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 01:10

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 01:10
I was told all the efs suspension models were auto's
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Follow Up By: Aussi Traveller - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:49

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:49
My 100 series TD IFS Cruiser was a 5peed manual.

I bought a 200 series diesel with 55000 km on it in immaculate condition for $65 K, it had a alloy bull bar, tow pack, reverse camera, snorkel, lift kit and roof rack.

The 100 series were good but not that good.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Aussi Traveller - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:51

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:51
Should note the Cruiser was an 11 09 model.
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 21:00

Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 21:00
Three years ago our eldest son purchased a 2003 4.2TD GXL auto with 21,000K on the clock, almost new tyres (replaced immediately), without one thing that a mechanic could find wrong with it, with HF and a other few things for $62K. There were more things done to it that I cannot recall.

The couple bought it new, did one trip and the husband took crook and never got out of bed again. It never got out of the garage again. Almost 1" of dust of the roof. But the fan belts looked as if the motor had been run just as said by the seller and a common friend. An absolutely top buy.

You can be lucky.

We paid $42K for a 2005 4.2TD GXL auto with 110K on the clock just six months earlier. No mud, dirt or grass seeds in those hidden areas like the foam padding on top of the chassis rails.

Not as good a car as the sons but still a ripper.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member -Toonfish - Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 22:36

Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 22:36
If you wanted my cruiser you just had to ask ?
And fork over some hard earned I'm afraid
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 07:38

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 07:38
Hi Toonfish

Why may I ask would we want your car when we have this one.

No brute. Not going fast. Just a hard climb up Billy Goat Track in the Vic high country near Dargo. Cost us $43 three years ago and now insured for replacement at $62. Not bad for a eight year old car. We have added over 100K in drives since we got it on 30 Dec 2009. Only broken one shockie and a "little" encounter with a rock wall at 40K but all good now.

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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 10:13

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 10:13
Editor!!!???

The purchase price was$43K. Insured for $62K. The 40K speed should have read 40 KPH

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Reply By: Leanne M - Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 22:58

Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 22:58
Hi

We have just been through the exact same scenario and have ended up with a used TTD 200 Series. We couldn't justify spending that much money on a 7 or 8 year old vehicle (also most of the 100's we looked at had over 120,000km on the clock), and for around an extra $10,000 we bought a diesel TTD VX, 50,000km, 2008 model. We haven't regretted it so far, it is a beautiful car to drive, and a definite step up from our 2003 petrol/gas Sahara.

It's definitely a dilemma.

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 09:39

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 09:39
We did the same as you and bought a new 200 series VX over a 5 year old 100 series.

People who by 4wd's are a strange mob..... they hate anything new especially technology and with a few teething problems the early 200 series had many got scared and opted for the 100 series..... and helped keep the price high.

We drive many 100 series through work that we have in and I can tell you after owning the 200 series the 100 series feels very old, outdated and harsh.

The thing with the 200 series is it does everything so effortlessly.

But there are things I don't like.
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 11:12

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 11:12
Hi olcoolone.... You mentioned that theres thing u don't like...... may I ask what those things are??

We have a 150's with a family of 5. Currently its suits our needs but in 2yrs when its lease is up, I'm in 2 minds as to which way to go..... The only issue we have had with the Prado is a cracked inner guard on the drivers side..... Toyota paid for the repairs and I had it re-inforced at the time. This time I plan to install a lighter 2nd battery + I've modified the battery carrier. If it cracks again after our trip in the next few weeks, it will be easy to make my mind up..... Go back to a TD 100's..... but as people have mentioned in this post, for a little more $$ u can step into a 200's but like many, I've heard quite a few negative things about them which has be concerned and that's why I'm leaning more towards the 100's but the Torsion Bar front end is one thing that I'm not very keen on.
We have a few years b4 we need to make up our minds but one other thing I want to go back to is a "Tailgate" type setup in the rear and Toyota are the only ones that still do this.
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Follow Up By: Member. Rob M (QLD) - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 14:38

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 14:38
It sounds like a lot of money for a fairly old car.
My 2006 auto GXL was only 64,750 new.

Having said that, I have been very happy with the vehicle over the last 330000 klm's. Only regular services and suspension and tyre replacing
until all new bushes and CV joints just recently.

If you are planning on keeping the vehicle, and not looking to resell any time soon then it may well be a good buy.

Good luck with your decision.
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Reply By: 410 - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:25

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 08:25
Hi
Is this the asking price or sold price ?
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Follow Up By: allein m - Monday, May 20, 2013 at 13:01

Monday, May 20, 2013 at 13:01
asking price in the car sales place
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Reply By: Member - Wamuranman - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 13:26

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 13:26
Hi Allein,

I would be a little wary of a vehicle with a big diesel engine thats averaged 4400km per year for 7 years. It may have been used as a daily commuter or take the kids to school. That sort of use for a diesel is not good, if thats the case (only guessing of course). It may not be as good a condition as one thats maybe done 150k km and worked a little but been well looked after. Just surmising thats all.
As has been said above...have a look at the 200 series. Much more powerful and if it has KDSS suspension, a safer and better handling vehicle. My observation is the price of the 200 series have come down in price past 6 months. I saw a nice 2010 model diesel with 76k km on it for $63,000 just last week. I personally would not pay that price for 100 series (no matter how good the model is) the fact is its 7 years old. If I was considering it I would want to know its history, how it has been used, and why the Ks are so low.
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Follow Up By: allein m - Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 14:43

Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 14:43
Thank you I have slept on the problem looked at many things and taken in what you have said and considering that the amount of cash I will loose in depreciation with this car it does not have any roo bar or any extras a 200 is looking better every turn


Private price
Trade in value
Dealer price
$22440-25500
$17600-20400
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on line average price and basically after 2 or 3 yrs that is what the 62 k car will be worth that is a lot of money to through away
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Reply By: goddosglory - Monday, May 20, 2013 at 14:43

Monday, May 20, 2013 at 14:43
go and have a good look at the ford xlt px ranger......
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Follow Up By: allein m - Monday, May 20, 2013 at 15:52

Monday, May 20, 2013 at 15:52
I have been looking at one today see what price it goes for at the auction
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Monday, May 20, 2013 at 21:08

Monday, May 20, 2013 at 21:08
If u go for one of these modern day high output 4 or 5cyl diesels that u get a Auto. With the manuals, u will be either be replacing clutches regularly or like a bloke my cousin has been dealing with as he's on his 4th manual gearbox.....
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Follow Up By: goddosglory - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 10:29

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 10:29
i was a toyota salesman/manager for 30 years and i could post a lot of negative stuff about toyota...but i won,t..what i will say is in my opinion..the 3.2 px ranger is as good as any 100 series lc..mine has now done 70,000 k,s is manual and still has original gearbox and clutch...
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Follow Up By: allein m - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 12:54

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 12:54
you should write a book about your time as car sales man manager I did work for 5 yrs for duncan motors as a service dept /spare parts driver odd job taking car s to different places to get ect but i loved sitting down with the older car sales guys and some of the stunts they did to sell a car in the 60s thinker oil and some of the customers and things they tried like one who insisted I damaged the car before each car is inspected for damage and that is rerecorded in writing

great time I had there some thing new every day lol
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Follow Up By: goddosglory - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 14:56

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 14:56
in the 70,s when i started you had to be creative..in the 80,s anybody could borrow money...you only had to quote payments...in the 90,s the mining boom started..people would sell up eveything including the car and fly to the mining states...i would fly to the auctions in the non mining states and buy all the commercial toyota and truck it home...these clever rockapes would then pay a lot more for the same thing they had back home...yes you are right i could write a book....but i won,t...by the way so could harvey norman...
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 16:16

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 16:16
You could be right with the PX Ranger, but unfortunately only time will tell. I hope they are just as good as you say, as I like the look of them (hate the cat eye mazda's).... 70,000kms is a good trouble free run but in the big scheme of things for those that keep their vehicles long term (like me) its still very young in kms..... When it gets 200+ or even 300+ kms on them, then I reckon I'll will have confidence in them.
I'm still unsure as to the longevity of common-rail diesels in this country.... but time will change that...... Just my thoughts though
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Follow Up By: allein m - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 17:32

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 17:32
last week when I was doing my pink slip for rego a guy next to me at the mechanics had a brand new Dmax and he was not a happy chap he sold his old 4x4 not sure what but yrs of trouble free motoring to one problem after another he said it was a huge mistake scarry thought after parting with a lot of hard earned cash

new cars or 2nd hand what is better lol
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 22:51

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 at 22:51
Well, I'm still concerned with all the new technology when it comes to remote travelling.... If our 150s Prado continues to perform well for the next couple of years, then I'll probably end up keeping it.... if not, then I'll be looking at going back in time to the 100's IFS TD.... Even that is still fly-by-wire.....but at least it's fairly well proven itself though
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Follow Up By: goddosglory - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 10:00

Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 10:00
new or secondhand..i think comes down to how much money you want to spend..before i bought my ranger..i was a walking add for toyota i had been brain washed..reliability,resale,parts availability..etc...i had a 100 series lc approaching 300,000 k,s..i didn,t want to spend
$70-80,000.00 on a 200 series..too much money to take risks with..my old 100 would go anywhere i wanted to go ...so the problem like so many others are having.what do i do..if 100 blows up it,s very expensive to repair...if i spend $20-30,000.00 plus trade in what can i get that will tow 2-3 tonne..4wd....up to 5 year old lc with 150-300,000 k,s on it..not much improvement on what i already have, and a large amount of travelling money gone..fortunately for me my brother owns a ford dealership in country nsw..when i called in for a visit over xmas,he was raving about this new ranger..(worse than me with toyota)..he allowed me to borrow one while i was there..70,000 k,s later i still can,t wipe the smile off my face...4 wheel driving through the vic high country...towing my van all the way up to far north qld...
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 12:32

Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 12:32
Do u mind me asking..... Manual or Auto?

I assume these are still Leaf Sprung Rear end ??
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Follow Up By: allein m - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 14:39

Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 14:39
manual no roo bar or off road products on the car
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Follow Up By: RobMac (QLD_Member) - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 16:49

Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 16:49
Thanks for that.... Just did a bit of a Google on them as like most new models, they seem to have their teething problems but I'm sure by the time I get around to look at our next car, most of those issues would have been sorted.
The Ford Australia Forum has a good 312 post topic on them. U might have already visited the site but it has some good reading and insight into the model. Might try reading it so I'm better informed when it comes time to start looking at what to get... As I said previously, I like the look/size of the Rangers (not the BT50) and if the back seat is roomy enough for 3 kids, that's a big bonus....

New PX Ranger - Faults - Concerns- Reviews from owners


Anyhow.... back to the topic at hand..... the 100series.. :) At this stage, this is my preferred car for our situation as a family car / tourer / 4WD vehicle, etc and with minimal (well sort of) electronics / sensors.
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Reply By: coonick - Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 19:39

Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 19:39
I luv my 4wding and have spent many hours behind the wheel on road, offroad, bogged etc etc I couldn't think of anything more enjoyable thana road trip .
I know my 4wds well and have built rebuilt and modified . However !!!!!!
I will never ever be stupid enough to pay $60000 or even $40000 for a 6 year old LC or patrol 4.2 diesel. Yes they are an awesome vehicle. But they certainly are not worth the money some ask for them. They are NOT THAT GOOD.
I loved my 99 GU but after discussing options with the better half we decided to buy new.
I looked at later models, and choked at the offensive ridiculous prices they were asking. Honestly I didn't realise how blatantly foolish some are to pay those prices on a used......yes USED car. Im sorry but $45000 for an 8 year old car with 100000km + on it. You have to be joking......$20-30000 is more realistic.
I found at a Toyota dealer a 99 100 series 4.2td.......wait for it $42000.
Pure criminal.
We bought new, no one else has owned it, 6year warranty 200000km warranty......... I luv my new ranger. I will compare it in ability and handling as just as good if not slightly better offroad and plenty better onroad than a LC or Patrol.
I only hope it gives me many years of happy motoring. 12 months and going awesome.
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