Updated Ranger report

Submitted: Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 15:06
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I talking to the Light vehicle super at my old (don't miss it at all) workplace and we were talking about the new Rangers and any faults that had shown up.

Main problem is the batteries going flat or failing. Because the alternator doesn't charge them until they are nearly flat the guys get out of the vehicles and when they get back in they sometimes won't start. They have also replaced quite a few batteries.

They have hydrauliced one engine due to water and are now fitting snorkels. That naturally is not a vehicle fault.

Was talking to a ford salesperson who normally don't volunteer anything. He said a problem they were having was coal dust getting past the air filters although at the other underground hard rock mine I worked they haven't had this problem.

Other than this there have been no problems showing up at this point in time.
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Reply By: Ross M - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 16:29

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 16:29
Rockape
That coal dust getting through the filter is going to make them more powerful, the dust and air will be more energy dense and they will really pull like a steam train. Do you know if whistles also fitted in place of the horn?

Now back to reality, do you know of how the alternator circuitry is arranged.

It might be a simple thing to keep the ECU happy but also keep the alt running as normal.

Cheers
Ross M
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:45

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:45
Apparently they have tried quite a few mods on the electrical system but they have had to go back as built specs. Ford may need to write a software program to fix the shortcoming. That may or may not happen as it will all be about meeting the euro 5 or 6. Also ford may not see it as a problem for the average user. Saying that they were very keen to get their product into mines so maybe something will be done. The vehicles used where I worked really don't need to meet any specs except particulate emissions.

Someone else may do a software update if Ranger owners are lucky are lucky. Many have complained of the problem in forums and directly to ford.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 10:36

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 10:36
jeez that sounds like a real PIA, if you park up a Ranger with a half charged battery (any of the mainstream types) it will shag the battery rapidly?
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 19:31

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 19:31
fisho,
early days yet but so far my battery seems ok. Mine seems to max charge to 12.6v and gets as low as 12.2v while it is sitting. I sometimes think we maybe to technology driven. Having said that the vehicle performs way beyond my expectations both on and off the road. I still like the standard old diff locks they have.


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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:01

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:01
Thanks for keeping us updated.
I was wondering just the other day how things were going with the Rangers out on the mine sites.
I still have not replaced my current Hilux with a new ute & the Ranger is in my short list as a replacement. As is the 70 series Toyota LandCruiser ute.

Cheers
Stu
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:55

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 17:55
They are pretty happy with the rangers but they will not take the hiding a 70 series ute will take. Their reason for shifting to ford was because of cost, especially when they were supplied direct from ford for under $20,000. That will make some cry. Other surface mines are shifting because of the 5 star ancap rating which allows them to get rid of roll bars.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 19:20

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 19:20
G/Day RA,.....Just a Example of how money Talks!!!.



Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 21:36

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 21:36
I know the dealers buy from Mazda Aust to sell to the wood ducks, as the dealers call them, and the dealer pays less than half the price the "customer buys it for.
There is no room to move though.
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 08:05

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 08:05
Gee if I could get a new one for that price I would order it tomorrow!
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Reply By: Nutta - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 18:08

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 18:08
I'm surprised one was hydrauliced, dont they have a 800mm fording depth?

Surely they dont go any deeper than that in the mines!

Maybe its just a sales pitch!
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 18:45

Sunday, May 26, 2013 at 18:45
Nutta,
Often I drove through water over the bonnet of a 75 series. Depending on the type of mining and how much money they have they will develop right to the bottom of the proven up ore body. This is very attractive, they get large tax breaks as they call it a development decline. They don't go into the ore body at all while developing. Now all the water once the bottom is reached is drained to the bottom of the mine and pumped to the surface from there. Often one of those drain holes will block and it will flood part of a drive. That water can be very deep. If you haven't got machine it is also common to dry into a sump with a ute to retrieve or hook up a new pump, that also can be pretty deep.

I have also seen a loader put it's fan through the radiator.

This will give you an idea of the height of the loader. The Lady operator is about 178cm.



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Reply By: allein m - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 15:53

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 15:53
there was a tv programing on mining vehicles and they went into the mt Charlotte mine in Kalgoorlie they had one land-rover ute it lasted 5 days lol not sure what would be the worse case scenario to buy 2nd hand army land rover or a ex mine vehicle lol
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