Help - Sleeping Bags

Submitted: Monday, May 27, 2013 at 08:53
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Hi All

Need the combined wisdom of the forum, I need a new sleeping bag for our Simpson trip.

We have 4 x Roman passports for each of us that are -5 and fantastic. However I am not small and now find it too restictive (around the shoulders, not the waist :-)). I have Oztrail bigfoot for the boys weekends but we alway use the passports to pack for size

So, i need a bigger sleeping bag that packs down to nothing, is -5 or better, not costing me a morgage payment etc etc

not asking for much huh

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Reply By: Penchy - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 11:09

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 11:09
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OZTRAIL-COTTON-CANVAS-SWAG-12-C-JUMBO-SLEEPING-BAG-/261135650487?pt=AU_Sleeping_Gear&hash=item3ccce5ceb7#ht_1831wt_1161

I just bought one of these. I have not received it yet but they look the business for a winter high country trip I'm going to do. No idea how small it packs down to, but that wasn't a consideration for me.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 11:22

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 11:22
There are two or three of these threads each year
Suggest you do a search on " sleeping bag " and you will find a large number of responses to questions such as yours.
To meet that requirement of "packing down to nothing" and being able to comfortably cope with -3 to -5 (with multiple layers of clothing) I'd suggest you are looking at spending a minimum of $250 and that's if they are "on special".
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Follow Up By: sweetnam - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:30

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:30
Thanks, I did try that first, however the problem sometimes with old threads are out of date answers - i know I will pay but am trying to narrow down the search a bit.... the variety is doing my head in.
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Reply By: Member - Des Lexic - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 13:33

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 13:33
When you buy your sleeping bag, ask the seller if the degree rating is a temperature or a comfort rating. I know of a few people who bought -5 bags and have been cold only to find out that it was a comfort rating.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 14:38

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 14:38
I had that problem and took a different approach.

Now take hotwater bottle which takes little space and is used if very cold - like last weekend in high country.

Also carry a 12v electric blanket which packs up very small - thats a bit decadent though , mostly used as a rug around kids at campfires.
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Reply By: Mudguard - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 16:02

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 16:02
invest in a THERMOLITE insert for your bag we went for the Reactor PLUS
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Follow Up By: sweetnam - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:31

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:31
we use the kathmandu silks that are fantastic
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Reply By: Bazooka - Monday, May 27, 2013 at 20:16

Monday, May 27, 2013 at 20:16
Luggage space must be at an absolute premium if one bag of soft stuff is going to make a difference.
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Follow Up By: sweetnam - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:33

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 12:33
it was a simple enough question.....maybe a useful answer would have helped - you must be bored
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 17:11

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 17:11
The question as posed is actually quite odd but is easily answered if you did a bit of homework yourself and googled or searched this site before posting. One slightly oversize bag is highly unlikely to make much difference to anyone's load, and it's pretty obvious that a good might's sleep in a comfortable bag is far more important than saving 3 or 4 litres of space and a couple of kilograms in weight.
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Follow Up By: sweetnam - Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 08:53

Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 08:53
Bazooka, as in my other followup, i did search the forum before posting, and found a lot of old answers, not current information on what is available in the market.

Sarcastic rather than useful answers are a waste of time, and I responded accordingly. So now, I should not waste the forums time and search myself...

And, if I can get a nice suitable bag that does pack down to a tiny size, then why not try for both. I was purchasiing one anyway so why not get something that is as close to what I want as possible.
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 21:15

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 21:15
Ok, I've bought the goretex bivvy bags (new), thermal undergear, and a few items of warm clothing from these folk . . . and they have this army surplus sleeping system . . .
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MODULAR-SLEEP-SYSTEM-US-Military-Surplus-Gore-Tex-Bivy-4-piece-system-/320908072747?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab79c972b

Sometimes they have new gear as well, but the used is very good cond, and always clean etc . . . I bought a polartec 300 jacket for something like $15 used, and it was brilliant.

The bivvy I bought was used in Nepal, Mt Kanchenjunga base camp last year, with my Macpac Neve down bag only, toasty warm at -17c :)

The above system would be well worth a look, you can tailor to use 2 pieces in moderate conditions, or the lot when it really gets cold . . . kind of like layering up clothing o suit weather . . . the bivvy itself packs down to the size of a half football, and weights all of 800gms or so.
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Reply By: Ben J2 - Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 23:05

Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 23:05
I am a BIG fan of the Roman sleeping bags. Have you considered the Roman Super Trek Advance? -10 and is 5cm wider than the Passport at the top of the bag. It is a sensational bag - I wish I had the need for it, it has a enlarged foot space for comfort, drawstrings to pull it closer on a colder night, ripstop material and made from their premium materials.

That is the widest hiking sleeping bag that I know of, then you have to go to one like that Oztrail Cotton Canvas bag - or the Roman (superior version) the Swag Sleeping Bag - I actually own this one. Flannelette lining, cotton outer so no rustling noise, I haven't been in extreme conditions but I am yet to be cold. It has no hood which technically means you will be colder but it also means you can open it up to form a great doona more easily (plus better if you ever want to zip 2 together.

The final one I would recommend would be The Beast also by Roman, what I love about it is the removal inner flannel lining meaning super easy to wash and makes the bad good for colder or warmer nights.

You can get compression bags to make these bags smaller as the swag bag comes in a stuff sack but like someone else said you can usually afford the extra few centimetres.

I got an email from Kangaroo Tent City (here in NSW) that they have a Roman sleeping bag sale on and the Trek Advance was like 50% off so I recommend checking them out. I am pretty sure they stock the swag bag, the beast and the trek advance ones.

Hope this helps!
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Reply By: sweetnam - Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 08:55

Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 08:55
Ended up buying a -7 hiking bag from Mt Design on special - $400 down to $140, very tappered but 165cm at the shoulders so very happy

Also bought the wife a down bag from Kathmandu, some crazy sales at the moment. I did check out Kangaroo Tent City and they have some great specials, but nothing that was a real step up from what I had

Thanks for all the help - we have a happy ending
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