HID Lightforce Striker Upgrade

Submitted: Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 09:00
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Have any of you chaps gone down the HID upgrade path, on ebay there are a plethora of retailers offering their upgrade. Which ones if any are worth purchasing (are they all the same) as it seems a better option to spend $150 than $900 purchasing new lights?
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:46

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:46
Scotty, better yet, spend only $35 which is the average price of an HID kit with free post. Just make sure you specify the correct globes (H1, H3 etc) and the colour you want. 5000K to 6000k seem a good medium.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:01

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:01
I think my Roo Lites are identical to the Lightforce. The job was easy.
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Reply By: Scotty - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:16

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:16
Thanks Ben, Where are they advertised for $35 and what are the difference in H1...H3 etc?
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Follow Up By: Charlie B2 - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 13:31

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 13:31
Scotty,

H1, H3, H4, etc are different globe configurations. You will need to understand which configuration your lights have so that you can order the proper globe type (and I'm not at all sure that Lightforce follow these, anyway) but it would be a lot less difficult for forumites to explain the differences if you had pictures (I can't get them to work where I am at the moment).

H4 is the normal set-up for high/low beam headlight globes. My old Cibie Super Oscars used H1 globes (with quite a long overall length) and my Hella worklights use H3's, which are substantially shorter overall, even for the same wattage.

Perhaps you could simply try Google or Wikipedia - I'm sure there's going to be something there that will help you gain a better appreciation of the differences. Maybe "H1 Halogen globes" or "H3 Halogen globes" might be a starting point.

Otherwise, if you wander down to your local Repco/Supercheap/even fuel outlet, you may be able to see the differences in the flesh, so to speak.

Regards,

Charlie
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Follow Up By: Scotty - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 13:55

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 13:55
Thanks Charlie, think they are H1....
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Reply By: Tim - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 14:58

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 14:58
I did one set of light force lights and they were a bit more difficult then most of the others. Because of the type of globe used, you have to remove the aluminum "choke" and re-fit the globe to it. I think there is a video on you tube showing how to do it. From memory you have to be careful to get the focal point correct for best output.
I also remember reading somewhere that you maybe better off going for a smaller (55W) light as the higher wattages will be too hot for the plastic reflector and will brown it (burn it) over time.
As far as HID upgrade goes, the difference between standard and HID is nothing short of amazing.
Tim
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Saturday, Jun 15, 2013 at 17:54

Saturday, Jun 15, 2013 at 17:54
In the Roo Lite, the original globe has a pop rivet which has to be drilled out. The HID replacement just drops in. I originally fitted H1s, but they were out of focus. Fitting H3's solved the problem.
HID kit

Bob
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 18:12

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 18:12
They are not all the same, I have heard of some HID kits giving less light than the halogens they are replacing
I have tried Predator and Newprotech HID kits and was happy with the result. Both can be purchased on eBay I think. As others have noted don't get lured into getting a too powerful set as the heat damages the reflectors, I think 55w max is recommended
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Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 22:37

Friday, Jun 14, 2013 at 22:37



You will need an adapter to fit H3 globes, here are the instructions.

We also stock 50W kits.

Regards

Derek from ABR
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Reply By: Scotty - Saturday, Jun 15, 2013 at 08:53

Saturday, Jun 15, 2013 at 08:53
Thanks ABR I now know that it is an H3 lamp base, I notice on the net that a few of the more modern kits state that you don't require any mods and that the upgrade is fully reversible.

I also notice that an HID upgrade kit is selling for around $35 to $45 (as ALL kits are made in China even the ones coming from the USA) but as soon as you put lightforce against it, it then becomes a $129 kit and the only difference is the lamp adapter, seems strange.

I see a chap on the net in Aussie is selling just the adaptor for $70 for 4, what function does the adapter perform, is it the same base lamp but a stronger seat as the lamp is bigger?

What are your kits selling for as you state you have a 50W most kits are 55W on the net? the more I learn the more confusing it becomes....
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:40

Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:40
There are some kits that the base is part of the globe, these you will see have a large black plastic base and no aluminium adapter.

All kits are fully reversible but you need to drill the lightforce pop rivet out and remove the old lightforce globe holder.

We sell the adapters for $10ea and you need the adapter to hold the H3 globe in the correct position to focus the lamps.

We were concerned about heat and decided 50W is all that the 170's could safely handle, we did not want any customers having warranty issues with deformed reflectors from heat.

Regards

Derek

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Reply By: Scotty - Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:23

Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:23
Derek,
baie dankie meneer, for the explanation, it all makes sense now....
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