A decent hand winch?
Submitted: Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 20:14
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I do not intend to ever use a winch BUT...
I am after recommendations for a decent hand winch to keep in the ute as insurance. Two questions. Which one? Where can I get it?
Basically I want to know what will do the job rather than claim to do the job.
I have read the articles on this site and know they are hard work. I only want something that will get me out of trouble if I get bogged.
Reply By: Hoyks - Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 23:43
Sunday, Jun 16, 2013 at 23:43
I have a TuffPull, sold by TJM. It is a Tirfor clone, but you can't kill it with a stick. There are lots around, that are basically the same inside the case. The newer ones come in a aluminium body and look a bit flasher.
It has got me out of a hole a few times, and also been used for moving dead trees on the
farm. It's hard work, but better than spending the night somewhere you would rather not be.
Ebay is a good source, you will find a few 2nd hand ones, probably with straps and shackles going for a fraction of the new price. People use them, use them once, realise how much hard work it is and stick it in the corner of the shed.
Budget for an extension strap (long one, you can always fold it in 1/2), a snatch block, tree protector, 4 or so 3.2 ton shackles and a drag chain. With that you should be able to just about pull anything in any direction.
I too have used the high lift jack and the cheap drum type
winches. Both are a pain in the arse as you are forever resetting the gear. By the time you take up the slack you can only move the load about 6". With the cable winch you can also lower a load under control if need be.
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Reply By: gbc - Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 06:03
Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 06:03
Tirfor, black rat, tuff pull, brahno etc are all o.k.
So long as you are looking at a winch with a separate roll of cable next to it, I haven't seen a bad one yet. The black rat/tuff pull are the newer generation with two piece allow bodies which are lighter than the old school tirfor/brahno
winches with pressed steel bodies. My Brahno is 40+ years old and still kicking goals - it was military surplus when I got it 20 years ago.
As has been mentioned, the winch and cable are only part of the setup - make sure you have shackles and a method of attaching the device to the anchor and the vehicle. I carry a snatch block as
well, but the hardened 11mm cable isn't happy going through 10mm cheeks and would only use it as a last option.
Ratchet pullers (drums) are good for straightening choko trellis' and the like - never use one on a car.
Finally, I'd recommend doing a dry run with a hand winch. Those of us who are intimately aquainted with them will all agree that they do some amazing things, but the one thing they all have in common is a buggered operator - it's hard yakka getting a full sized vehicle moved from a spot where it can't rescue itself.
If the costco winch is anything like the Aldi winch I'd be all over it. My Aldi winch has performed faultlessly, and it does actually get used. Toughest recovery so far was a patrol ute past the point of no return in
the lagoon at Double island. It was stuck fast on the chassis, but the little winch that could popped it out.
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Follow Up By: Bazza - Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 15:32
Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 15:32
IMO there is no such thing as a "decent hand winch". Spend any more than 20 - 30 minutes on any hand winch and you'd have no problem with spending any amount of money on an electric one!
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 16:25
Monday, Jun 17, 2013 at 16:25
I can't say I agree. A hand winch won't burn out a solenoid or have the contacts corrode. If the power supply starts failing, then you just swap out the operator. It will also work happily all day under water if need be... The operator, not so much.
Most of the time I have needed
mine it was only a matter of pulling the vehicle Fwd a few meters before you could drive it out again. You can also carry it into a place to haul someone out when you don't want to get your own vehicle stuck as
well.
They are more versatile, not easier.
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