Ford Ranger PK

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 17:51
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I have a Ranger PK and I have had 3 exterior mirror switches fail (admittedly they are being replaced under warranty at the moment) has anyone had the same problem? Also I have been told I can re-program the key to stop it locking the car after after sitting inactive for 30 secs again any help would be appreciated
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 18:04

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 18:04
No mate, no problems with the external mirror switch . . .

Nor sure about the 30 sec locking on the doors, I know that if you unlock the doors and don't open any of them within 30 secs, they will re lock.
If you unlock, then just open and close any of the doors just the once, they stay unlocked.

I know how to deactivate the alarm for when a door is open with key in the ignition, haven't done that yet, but I like to have the door open when out of the vehicle sometimes with the radio going.

The other alarm is headlights on when ignition off.
Don't mind this one as it's a good alarm to have, but might rig up to a small led on the dash instead of the beeping alarm that I can barely hear.
Actually, I'd rather have lights switch off automatically when ignition is turned off, or all lights killed when key removed.
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Follow Up By: Puttingdave00 - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:11

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:11
Thanks Les,
I'm concerned if I unlock the doors with the key, then happen to leave the keys inside the car with the windows wound up and the doors relock then I am in trouble, I was told by an "expert" that that mode can be programed out, I am taking the car back into the Ford dealer tomorrow to have the external mirrors repaired.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:39

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:39
Hmm, maybe get a spare cut without all the bulky part, and put it in a spot under the vehicle.
I found the magnetic keyholders are fine inside a chassis or sub frame, as long as the magnet is on good flat steel, and if inside then if it did dislodge it would be contained (maybe wired on is better with rough 4wd conditions).
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Follow Up By: Member - TheFox3305 - Wednesday, Jul 10, 2013 at 20:12

Wednesday, Jul 10, 2013 at 20:12
try and leave the keys (while you have got a spare key) in there deliberately and see if there is a problem. unlocking the door starts the inactive timer. opening the door stops it. opening the door is an action.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 18:41

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 18:41
What exactly, is happening to the door switches? You said they failed but did they burn out? did they break something inside? did they just stop working because of dust ingress?
There has to be a reason for the failures and just placing Band Aids doesn't cure the problem.

My guess is dirt/dust or water from the open window drops into the switch "IF" it is on the door.

Did the dealer tell you why? possibly they haven't bothered to look and are none the wiser.

The key fob doesn't get reprogrammed, it is the ECU lock control which has it's memory altered to change operating parameters.
Seem to be a matter of knowing which items and sequences are required to operate to change it.
Most modern cars have more options than we can remember are there.

Ross M
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Follow Up By: Puttingdave00 - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:21

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 20:21
Thanks Ross,
I'm not sure what is happening to the Mirror module, but being an Old Sparkie I think the components may be undersized but that is only a guess and they will not give me the crook one to have a look, but the lady in the spare parts dept told me today they sell a lot of then which is a good indication there is a problem.
Being a caravanner you need to adjust the mirrors more than the average motorist.
I managed to get hold of a wiring diagram and after I worked out how to read it , the problem is internally in the module on the drivers side door.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 22:01

Tuesday, Jul 09, 2013 at 22:01

Is there an electronic module in the door or just switches as usual?

The switches must be horribly undersize for them to give trouble through burn or mechanical failure because the mirror motors are piddley little small things which don't use much current flow.

My guess is they get dirty and won't make contact. Electrical spray cleaner might shift it or compressed air.

The key issue. If you unlock the vehicle and then leave keys inside the vehicle won't lock itself because the opening of the door has cancelled the 30 sec relock timing. No car I have ever dealt with relocks itself if a door has been opened.

Only one I know WILL lock your keys in, is a VW Tiguan with the rear hatch door. Open only the rear, place keys inside, close door, now you have lost them , locked inside by the stupid programming of DAS AUTO.
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Follow Up By: Member -Shakeejob - Thursday, Jul 11, 2013 at 14:04

Thursday, Jul 11, 2013 at 14:04
I bet if you asked Das Auto to fix it they would say "well don't leave the keys inside!".
I had an experience some years ago (in the days when I was gainfully employed), we were installing a Kraut computing system and were worried that there were no firewalls to stop one operating group from using another's appropriations. Aussies having Ned's DNA it was always a problem in our organisation.
The Germans simply said no they would not change the program, just tell your employees not to do it! Good customer relations.
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