CO2 in tyres
Submitted: Friday, Apr 26, 2002 at 00:00
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Goran
Anyone out there running co2 in the tyres.I can't be the only one.My 3.5kg liquid CO2 bottle can pump about 26 tyres (265-75-R16) from 0 to 30 psi in less than 10sec each.It helps to be on your way on the really hot day.
Reply By: Goran - Sunday, Apr 28, 2002 at 00:00
Sunday, Apr 28, 2002 at 00:00
Bill, am running 265-75-R16 tubeles Grandtrack AT1
I do a lot of desert driving and don't have many flats at all.
Here it is guys.Forget about renting the bottle.
Mine is fire extinquisher bottle 3.5kg liquid CO2.Rigged with oxy gauge and regulator(wich is a must due to hi pressure)and short hose.
Nothing to it.Try it,you will not beleive
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Reply By: Gordon - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Goran
Here are a few things to be careful of when designing or using pressure tanks (CO2, SCUBA etc.): 1)By law, all presure tanks must be inspected periodically eg SCUBA tanks annually, I don't know how often fire extinguisher tanks must be tested, 2)By law, all pressure tanks must be fitted with a pressure relief device - usually a rupture disk. I had a nasty experience when my SCUBA tank burst its rupture disk at 1.00AM one night - gave me a hell of a scare!! The cause was very hot ambient conditions (
Adelaide summer) which heated the tank and increased the pressure. This is something to think about if you're in hot outback conditions - it pays to have another way of inflating tyres. Even though I have an ARB compressor under the bonnet I always carry a
hand pump as
well because you can't get far on a flat tyre and getting somewhere could be a matter of life or death. 4)A man was killed in the US when a wheel-barrow tyre he was inflating blew apart and he was hit in the chest by part of the rim. There were a number of contributing factors that caused the accident (i)The compressor he was using was not fitted with a pressure regulator (ii)The rate of air deilvery was very fast relative to the size of the tyre. (iii)The tyre was of the split rim design with bolts holding the rim together, (iv)the bolts were rusty. The dangers of 4WD split rims are
well documented - they can be fatal also. I use split rims but always take precautions when inflating for the first time after a repair. A fast inflation rate is not recommended for split rims. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Goran - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Gordon, all fire extinguishers are equiped with pressure releif devices. I never said that this type of tyre inflation is for everyone. There are people out there that can hurt themselves just by picking their teeth. The rate of air flow is controled with oxy regulator , therefore it is very safe alternative option of inflating your tyres split rims or not. Also it is cheap and fast. Like anything in this world it is not idiot proof.
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Follow Up By: Gordon - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
Goran, you obviously know what you're doing. I just worry about some of the comments I've seen in this
forum which just goes to prove there are alot of idiots out there. :-) The other thing I've seen are people that hook up old fire extinguisher tanks (1 or 2) to their ARB compressor outlet. This can provide enough air delivery to run air
tools eg impact wrench etc which really speeds up the tyre change as
well as inflation. By the way, do you know how often fire extinguisher tanks need to be tested?
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Follow Up By: Bob - Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00
Gordon
I suspect the teperature in
Adelaide may have been a coincidence. A temperature change from say 20 C to 40 C is a change from 293 Kelvin to 313 Kelvin. Charles Law states that Pressure is proportional to Temperature (in degrees Kelvin) so a change from from 293 to 313 is about 6% and within the safety limit of the Scuba cylinder (unless it was dangerously over-filled). If it was the temperature then pressure would have peaked during the heat of the day, or when the cylinder was filled.
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