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Submitted: Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 15:07
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I have another question for all you experienced travellers. What is the average weight for the contents of your caravan. i.e. excluding gas and water all the other non factory fitted items.

thanks again. :)
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Reply By: Erad - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:31

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:31
Sadly, I am blissfully ignorant of the payload in my caravan. All I know is that we seem to be carrying a hell of a lot of crap with us. SWMBO keeps collecting it. It reminds me of the movie "The Long Long Trailer" with Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball. I'd be interested to hear what weights other people have actually measured and recorded.
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Follow Up By: hooks - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 18:51

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 18:51
Thanks Erad,
I can understand how things can accumulate. Now we are tying to decipher what SWMBO stands for.
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Follow Up By: Member - Terry (SA) - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 21:06

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 21:06
SWMBOsee here

Cheers

Terry
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Follow Up By: hooks - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 21:55

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 21:55
Thanks Terry,
These nick names are great. I need to get out into this new world.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 14:21

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 14:21
It's not so much a caravanners term. If you had been a fan of Rumpole of the Bailey you would have heard Rumpole referring to Hilda as "She Who Must Be Obeyed" - We all shortened it to SWAMBO long before we were caravanners.
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:44

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:44
The tare weight of my caravan as listed on the compliance plate is 2.2 Tonne - its 24 foot long.
With the following – 180 litres water, 20 litres petrol, 2 X 9 kg gas bottles, a 2.5 Kva genset, a boot full of awning pieces, 1 spare tyre, a 50 kg battery, an aftermarket rear bumper and a month’s food and clothing - it comes up to 800 kg (3 tonne gross over a weighbridge) When the maker marked the tare weight I don’t know if it included the battery, gas bottles and the spare in that weight.
If you wanted to exclude Genset and its all weather cover 40 Kg, gas bottles 40 kg, water 180 kg, bumper 20kg - subtract 280kg from that total.
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Follow Up By: hooks - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 18:56

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 18:56
Thanks Dennis,
This is helpful. The rig we are considering can have a payload upto 700kg. I also will have to check whether this excludes the spare and gas etc. It seems it will not be too difficult to get near this limit in real terms.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:08

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:08
I hate to ask, but what is the GTM and ATM shown on the plate?
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:43

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:43
Hi Notso.
I am overweight but I suspect so are about 90% of other caravaners – most of those I’ve spoken to haven’t put theirs over a weighbridge. At 3 Tonne I am about 300kg over.
Have a look at Bow and Nan further down the page – over a 1 tonne payload – makes you wonder if they are overloaded.
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:47

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:47
Just had a look at Bow and Nans van - probally not overwieght - its a Bushtraker so I suppose it has a bigger payload
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Follow Up By: Notso - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:51

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:51
Yes a lot of vans are way overweight. Some van manufacturers weigh their van as it leaves the Factory and that is the tare, others seem to have a generic weight for the van that doesn't really reflect the true Tare as manufactured.

My latest van had the Tare weight exactly correct and they even included two full gas cylinders?
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Follow Up By: Notso - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:53

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:53
Just had a look at Bow and Nans, it is a BushTracker so may well be OK!
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Reply By: Notso - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:55

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 17:55
Was that with or without the wife pet rock collection?
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:40

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:40
leave the wife at home.......
there's 3tonne less you have to carry..............he he he


swag and fridge and camp chair..
odd tool and spares and im set..

nothing to nag you from the passenger seat.......ha ha
and stop, where when you want.......
spend on what you want as well......

just cant be fun alone in bed............... ha ha
man has to have something to handle in the morning.........
something to look at too...
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Reply By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 19:22

Sunday, Jul 21, 2013 at 19:22
Hi Hooks, we recently checked out a wide range of vans around the 20 - 21 ft and found the majority provided a loading capacity of around 300 kg which we seem to manage - mainly by only taking on a half load of water. We do tend to shop regularly.

Regular checks over the nearby weighbridge have given us a good idea of how the load pans out.

If we need to take on the extra 90 litres of water (90kg), we transfer an equivalent load to the Pajero as that has spare capacity most of the time.

I think the jack that came with the latest van is one of the heaviest items we cart around, so that is the first item transferred.

If you have a 700 kg payload capacity you could probably hire out some spare space the the rest of us on the road.

Happy travelling - Phil
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Reply By: Members - Bow & Nan - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:13

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:13
2400kg empty

3450kg full, includes 400kg of water and fishing gear.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 14:38

Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 14:38
Our load approaches 500 kg in a 5.5 m single axle van (including 80 kg water.)

The tare weight is defined as:

TARE MASS - mass of a vehicle other than a L-group vehicle ready for service,
unoccupied and unladen, with all fluid reservoirs filled to nominal capacity except
for fuel, which shall be 10 litres only, and with all standard equipment and any
options fitted.

This is the weight of the vehicle when it leaves the manufacturer. Any fixtures added by the dealer for you are not added to the tare, the weights of these fixtures must be subtracted from the load allowance. The same rules apply to a van as it would when you add a bull bar or tow bar to your tug.

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