HiLux vs Landcruiser
Submitted: Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 13:46
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Hairy (NT)
Gday,
The old petrol 80 series is starting to blow a bit of smoke now and then and has a few noises happening when on the rough stuff and has made me think it might be time to retire the old girl. With over 300,000 km on the clock and never missed a beat, its been a great vehicle but cant see the value in pouring money in to it?
My daughter has her licence now and son has only a couple of years to go which got me thinking I might be able to get that v8 Landcruiser ute I've always wanted and build a flash harry canopy for it.
Or
Do I really need a Landcruiser now, or would a HiLux better suit my needs??????
A 4 door Hilux would have the extra seeting that could be handy now and then too.
HiLux's have always seemed a little small, light weight and flimsy to me, for what I needed (Living in Central Australia) but these days I live on the coast and do more beach driving than anything, so I'm starting to think a near new HiLux with a small lift and a nice canopy might be a more practical choice......and the fuel savings would be great ! Im just scared it might be a step backwards?
I have briefly considered a Colorado but I prefer to stick to something that has been around forever so unless someone could really convince me ( and that would take some doing!!!) Ill be sticking to Toyota.
Has any one else changed from a Cruiser to a HiLux?
It would be great to hear some comments from Late model ( no older than 5 years) Hilux or Land cruiser ute owners.
See if you can really confuse me??? LOL
Cheers
Hairy
Reply By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 15:24
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 15:24
Hi Hairy,
I can understand your dilemma as I have just recently been forced into changing vehicles. Some more details.......
In my opinion, the current crop of medium duty utilities are a long way short of the heavy duty vehicles such as the Landcruiser, Patrol, Defender in regards to long-term durability and load carrying capacity. Yes, they are rated to the same load carrying capacity and generate as much or more power/torque - but I seriously doubt they will last as long.
I previously owned a 1989 D/Cab Hilux for 15 years and it was a great vehicle, but the design of the current model Hilux is quite different as far as chassis strength and clearance goes. My next vehicle was a 2007 Mazda BT50 which had numerous faults and effectively fell to bits. My current drive is a 2012 Landcruiser 79 series that I am hoping to keep for a very long time!
So at the end of the day it is a compromise - the medium duty utes drive like a car, get good fuel economy, have all the bells and whistles, but are built to a cost and lack the strength and raw 4WD ability of the Landcruiser (etc). Depending on the intended use and time of ownership, a meduim duty utility may be the best option. However for me that it definitely not the case, and I am more than happy with my current Landcruiser. Regarding the choice between a Hilux and the others, I too would be more confident in the Hilux.
Cheers, Geoff
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 15:53
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 15:53
Yeah...Im starting to move away from the Hilux for that reason I think.
I just read on another
forum that the 2012 Hilux are fitted with stability control which has caused issues with lifting them.....and that's the first thing I would have to do to it.
Might be better just buying the vehicle built for the conditions and stick to the v8 ute.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 16:22
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 16:22
There is no issue with lifting a vehicle or a Hilux that has stability control.... bit of an urban myth and it had be put to rest years ago on the new hilux
forum.
As for strength, the current Hilux is good and how much strength do you need in a 4wd, the way some talk you would think it's going to fall apart as soon as you venture off road.
There are plenty of Hiluxs with over 300,000k on them with no problems...... just like there are Patrols and Landcruisers with less K with problems.
If you want a truck that rattles your fillings buy a 70 series, if you want something that will do 99% of the 70 series but with comfort and power by a Hilux. Both are as reliable as each other.
The Hilux is getting a bit outdated compared with the Ranger/BT50 and Amarok.... the Hilux is more like a current Dmax/Colorado and better than the Navara and Triton.
BTW the Hilux is 80mm narrower and lower but 330mm longer than the current 200 series.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 17:20
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 17:20
The lift issues I was reading about was on a 2012 but turned out to be a software issue.
I agree with what your saying.......I know plenty of people who have had or got Hilux's and have been very happy with them.
I just don't know too many people who have gone from a Landcruiser to a hilux.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 18:33
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 18:33
G'day Hairy
I have just come out of a 07 Dual cab Hilux that I have had since new and now in a dual cab 79 series
The Hilux had all the usual mods of lift, bar work lockers etc and has been a great touring rig
The 79 is more agricultural and a heavier built and would stand up to repeated abuse for longer but the Hilux is still an extremely capable vehicle and I would happily own one again.
We travel fairly heavily laden and whilst the Hilux did the job, the 79 just does it with less effort
I wouldn't say one is better than the other as they are different vehicles, I think it is more a case of which one meets your needs best.
By the way the Hilux and the 79 are nearly identical in size, the steep windscreen on the 70 makes them look longer
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 19:26
Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 19:26
you cant put a quality vehicle together for 30g.. like the triton and make it last.. in the rough stuff !!
abi group run solely hilux and cruisers because the mechanics are telling them.. they handle the punishment better than any other vehicle on the market.
no issues, and they get treated like a used car too, on the construction sites....... freeways and bypass.... projects.
for mobile mechanics, engineers.. or the lacky on the tools..
its all Toyota gear.
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