Bottom half of the CSR

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Any ideas for the fuel consumption for the drive down from Kunawarritji to Wiluna on the CSR, the vehicle is a 2010 Defender 2.4 litre diesel, we have 120 litres, I am thinking a couple of 20 litre Jerrys extra may be needed, cheers, Kanga1.
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Reply By: andoland - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 15:23

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 15:23
In 2011, driving a 150 series diesel Prado I used 249 litres from Wiluna to Billiluna, a distance of just under 1800km.
Wiluna to Kunawaritji is close enough to 1100km. This section of the track was easier going than the northern section because you only hit sand dunes at around Well 10 and they get bigger as you go north, so your fuel economy will be better than for the top 700km. I cant remember exactly but would say I used about 140 litres for the lower section.



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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 15:39

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 15:39
Thanks for your info, we are just planning the trip at the mo for Winter next year so any ideas are helpful at this stage, cheers. Kanga.
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Reply By: Member - hopbush - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:25

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:25
I averaged about 13 litres per 100k for the entire trip from Billiluna to Wiluna in a 2005 3.0L D4D hilux.
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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:49

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:49
Thanks Tony, do you reckon your fuel consumption was more from well 33 up or fairly constant for the whole trip, we are coming through from the Sandy Blight Junction track/ Gary Junction road and will only be driving the Southern part of the CSR August next year. Cheers again, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 12:43

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 12:43
hi
in july 2002 I used just on 149ltrs for the bottom section that's 13.5l/100km's or 21 mls/per-gal with my 2.5ltr diesel turbo mazda bravo d/cab carrying camping gear/ food trunk/tools /spares / 40ltrs of water and 200lts of fuel and didn't need to be towed on any dune x-ings and although there was some very bad horregations
but from what I read and hear from other these days they'er are many more and have got more severe
so before you go crawl under you rig with a set of spanners and sockets and check/tighten every nut and bolt
it will be time well spent
cheers
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Reply By: Phil B (WA) - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:30

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:30
Hi Kanga
have you looked here for fuel use for whole trip and other info?

http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/WDeserts/Canning_Stock_Route.aspx


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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:53

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 17:53
Thanks Phil, that page isn't working for me ATM, if it is the trek notes for the CSR I have printed it out previously, plenty of useful info but unfortunately only a fuel estimate for the whole 1800 odd kms, regards, Kanga.
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 18:55

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 18:55
Hi Adriane, what does the guy you're buying the car off say he's getting off road? I reckon if you worked on the rate you used to get with the Troopie you'd have fuel to spare. If it's 1100km I used about 220L on the last desert trip I did and that was a mixed bag of conditions from firm track, mud, soft sand and a stack of dunes.
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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 21:56

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 21:56
Hi Dunc, the Landrover hasn't been used in anger as yet, it is a bit of a show piece for one of the 4WD accessory majors, so we are a bit in the dark. Funnily enough the Troopy used to be really good on the diesel even towing off road, buzzing along in third gear it was really good, no wind resistance could be the reason? If I can figure out how to do a post on aulro I'll ask them. All the best for your coming trip and Safari Dunc, Cheers A and G.
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Reply By: 08crd - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:30

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:30
Driving the CSR, is similar to the Simpson, you aren't slogging through soft sand all day. The sand hills are soft at the top, so you tend to get used to arriving at the bottom with a bit of speed and decellerating up and over.
Your fuel economy will be similar to what you use towing a caravan or a loaded dual axle trailer.IMO
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Reply By: Member - hopbush - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:44

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:44
Kanga, I used approximately 143 litres from Kunawirritji to Wiluna. This is a bit give and take because some of it was out of jerry cans which may or may not have held the full 20 litres. I would be very wary about carrying only 160 litres....certainly doable in theory but it doesn't leave much leeway for unforeseens. Track conditions are similar both north and south of Kunawirritji, probably not enough difference to unduly affect consumption to any great degree. Bear in mind also that Kunawirritji closes midday Saturday but they will stay open if you phone ahead....they did for us.
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Reply By: Member - Warrie (NSW) - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:49

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:49
Hi Kanga 1, we did wells 5 to 22 then Georgia Bore to Newman in May. It seems 7km per litre or 14litres per 100km if you like is the go for 3 litre diesels. That's a minimum of 140 litres of fuel. Play it safe and take 4 jerries to allow for side trips. BTW I am putting in pix of track conditions, flowers and other items of interest besides the decaying well infrastructures. Go into Places for a look. But be patient as the system is a bit cantankerous at finding wells. Start with CSR well 16 as it's in the recent updates and all you have to do is click on it's pic. Then head south and try CSR well 16. But as the indigenous name has been added and no-one knows it, so it usually won't come up on the search. So just type CSR and pause and bingo all the wells pop up. Good luck and enjoy the trip... W
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Follow Up By: Member - Warrie (NSW) - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:55

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 19:55
A bit more fiddling and bingo. Paste this in and all 73 CSR places are on one page. http://www.exploroz.com/Places/All.aspx?s=CSR#pltabs=1
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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 22:12

Friday, Aug 02, 2013 at 22:12
Thanks for the tips and that link, brilliant, I will get some kind of idea how much it drinks from the Simpson crossing which we are going to do on the way to the CSR and get an idea how many jerrys to buy in Alice, The Defender has a 75 and 45 litre tanks in it. I looked at putting another 100 litre tank along the sill, but it is hard to justify the price for the odd trip plus we live in Tassie and it really isn't all that far between Servo's. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 13:00

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 13:00
hi warrie
the indigenous name for well 16 is -- lawulawa --
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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 14:18

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 14:18
We did the CSR last year from south to north. We travelled in an 80 Series TD with a roof rack.

Our fuel stats are as follows:

Wiluna - Kunnawaritji (Well 33) 1045km - 159LT i.e. 15.22 Lt/100km
Kunnawaritji - to Halls Creek - 862km - 140LT i.e. 16.24 Lt/100km

The sand dunes in the northern section use a little more diesel.

We carried 242Lt when we left Wiluna.

Laurie
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Follow Up By: Kanga1 - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 15:45

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 15:45
Thanks for that Laurie, you must have had a heap of Jerry cans when you left Wiluna, having too much fuel is less of a problem than not having enough, I'm thinking we'll have around 180 litres for the run down so I'll need to take 60 litres more than the car has capacity for, we'll do a little digging and see what sort of collapsible fuel containers are available for that sort of storage, or even a flattish one for up against the cargo barrier. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 22:08

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 22:08
Kanga

We carried 145Lt in the 4WD tanks & 80Lt in 4 jerries inside the 4WD. As security, we took an extra 22Lt plastic jerry which we carried on the roof rack. We emptied the plastic jerry as soon as we could (at Well 4b). We then added 40 Lt to the main tank at Well 29. We probably didnt need to add the 40Lt, but we would have had the low fuel light on at Kunnawaritji with only 8 Lt in the tank.

If we did it again, we would only carry the extra 80 Lt. This would have given us 66Lt spare - a safe margin in case we had to change our trip.

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Reply By: Member - Andy T2 - Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 21:57

Saturday, Aug 03, 2013 at 21:57
Just got back (did north to south). As was previously stated, you willuse more fuel in the sand dune section. We had a 200 series which came in over 3 tonnes (with on board extras). Fuel wasn't a problem as long as $3.40/litre at Kunawarritji isn't an issue. Never put over $1000 in atva time before! LOL! We did a fuel drop as well later on but really didn't need it.
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