How hard would it be to have a Austrlian registration and licence
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:53
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allein m
Considering that so many people are moving to other state for work military people and other workers who have to moved for work
would it not be much more simple and effective to have one registration covering all of Australia
To me it would be much fairer system so why not do it .
Reply By: Rick (S.A.) - Tuesday, Aug 06, 2013 at 13:01
Tuesday, Aug 06, 2013 at 13:01
I agree a strong case for national rego & licence exists.
Ditto for road rules & regulations.
But, can you seriously see any state relinquishing control of anything???
I'm not attempting to be cynical, but merely realistic.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: greywiki - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 15:48
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 15:48
I have read with a great deal of interest your comments on registration through the various states.
Planning to send a vehicle from NZ across to OZ next year for a 11 month lap involving all states. If you guys have problems, what am I letting myself in fore, a problem in each state?? Our current NZ plate is not a standard
alpha numeric but a personal plate which we paid extra for.
If anybody has any advice on this dilemma all much appreciated.
Many thanks
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 19:22
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 19:22
Greywiki,
All the issues mentioned here only come into effect when moving from one state to another more or less permanently.
My understanding is that as an overseas tourist driving your own vehicle around Australia you should not have any issues with the various state authorities as long as your vehicle is correctly registered and insured the whole time you are here in this country.
If I'm wrong you can be sure that someone with more knowledge will jump on and correct me.
Disco.
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Follow Up By: mynance - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 20:08
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 20:08
A carnet is similar to a personal passport and contains all the relevant information about the vehicle - make, model, colour, engine capacity, seating capacity, registration number, owner and value.
A carnet is valid for 12 months from the date of issue. There are a number of conditions attached to the use of carnets in Australia. Some of those conditions are:
The vehicle must be exported from Australia prior to or on the expiry date of the carnet.
It is a condition of use of a carnet in Australia that you, do not leave the vehicle that is covered by a carnet in Australia while you are not here. Should you do so, this is a breach of the provisions of the Customs Act 1901 and Customs Regulations 1926. Once a breach has occurred, the security amount equivalent to the duty and GST (and Luxury Car Tax (LCT), if applicable) will be called up by Customs.
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 06, 2013 at 13:44
Tuesday, Aug 06, 2013 at 13:44
Allein
I dont know about fairer, it might be easier for those that do move around, but dont get fooled by thinking that by giving it to the Federal Gov that it will be better and fairer overall.
State roads are also funded I guess by a portion of Rego fees, so the Fed would need to step up and take on more of that cost.
I would also assume those move around for residency would be in the minority so why change a system to suit the minority
Alan
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:23
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:23
It's not just those moving around who would benefit from a national approach. We all pay for having eight different governments all duplicating effort. It's like a sheltered workshop for public servants. Imagine if we had 8 separate immigration departments with red tape every time you crossed a state border -
well what we have with cars amounts to the same thing.
The only good thing about separate state authorities is that when you become persona non grata in one, you can transfer licenses, rego etc to another.
The States are a waste of space and duplication of effort. They are defined by arbitrary lines drawn on a map 200 years ago. With modern travel and communication they are meaningless.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 09:53
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 09:53
Bob
We are going off topic a little, National Rego to abolition of the states.
You may save some money by abolishing the states and having the Federal Governement take over the delivery of
services, but do you really think they will do it better!
You would end up even more politisized distrubution of
services, rememeber the Minister af few years ago distrubuting funds to safe party seats based on a scribbles on a whiteboard.
Politizing still does happen at all levels but at over all there is distrubution.
People want Local Government to exist because it represents and addresses local issues, the next level addresses issues that concern a wider audience, then the Federal Govt exists.
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Reply By: WayneD - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:02
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 07:02
Try moving overseas for a couple of years and moving you car to your son or daughter in another state at the same time. Now that is a nightmare.
Moved from NSW to Singapore but kept my 4wd (spent too much on it) and drove it to
Darwin to leave with my daughter. The vehicle had to be registered in the NT as it would be there longer than 3 months, but because I was not living there they would not register it in my name. Could not insure it because it was NSW plate and residing in NT.
In the end had to transfer it in to my daughters name ($$$) so we could register and insure in NT.
Now the vehicle is going to QLd because of son in laws Army transfer and I am now in America for the next 6 months.
Agree one National rego would have made this soooo easy.
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Reply By: allein m - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 13:13
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 13:13
I was reading to use the great central hwy you need two permits to travel one from WA other NT this could be just a small example of the amount of doubling up required
regarding vehicle inspections of it was uniform across the board that in its self may help with the road toll in reducing the number of unroad worthy cars
but I also agree it will never happen in our life time may be in time it may happen
Thank you for your replies i know many of you travel all over this wonderful land and so some times find the different rules and regulations difficult to work with and often extra effort and expense required
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Reply By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 13:20
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 13:20
I don't agree at all with a national system. As it would only ever follow the hard line states like NSW or VIC.
As it is I have no trouble at all renewing my licence or rego on the car and van from anywhere in Australia, doing it online. Something you wouldn't be able to do with the draconian laws elsewhere. I also think states need to keep a level of seperation, as each state is very different for a reason, not one rule applies to the same situation in different states.
Cheers
Al
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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 14:58
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 14:58
We're the same people just living in different parts Al. Being different is just one of those myths perpetuated by all our levels of government to keep themselves in slack jobs plus all their hangers on.
I was chatting to a Singaporean once when there was a push for a republic going on and he said then "You don't want to worry about the Queen being the figure head of the country, you should be worried about having so many governments".
Totally ludicrous in this day and age to be bound by state lines drawn many many moons ago when you had to get about by horse, camel or boat.
AlanH.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 16:08
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 16:08
I completely agree with Alan TH. The State Pollies have a vested interest in telling us that they are protecting their state from all the other wicked states. They are a very inefficient and expensive hangover from the days before Federation when each State genuinely was essentially a separate country, even with their own militia and navy.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 18:53
Wednesday, Aug 07, 2013 at 18:53
slack jobs in govt departments? Inefficient? Rip-off, gouging at every opportunity?
....and we work our nuts off to pay for them.
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