Trailing arms on Kimberly Kamper
Submitted: Saturday, Aug 31, 2013 at 19:14
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Gary.W
We are the proud owners of a Kimberly Kamper. I think the model is the
Kakadu and its vintage is circa 2000 or 2001.
We purchased it second hand and the previous owner advised that it had been set up so that the hubs matched a Nissan (GQ I believe). We drive a 76 Landcruiser (5 stud pattern) and would like to have wheels that matched the camper and the truck for the same reason as the previous owner.
My gut tells me that rather than simply swapping hubs, because off wheel offsets etc., we are going to have to change the trailing arms so that the axles are the correct length.
If my hunch is correct, the expensive solution is to purchase new trailing arms and hubs. The cheap option is to find someone that has the same problem as me in reverse: Toyota hubs and trailing arms and wanting a set to match a Nissan.
Anyone here got any suggestions on how to find a match? Is there a simpler solution I am overlooking?
Cheers
Gary
Reply By: Ross M - Saturday, Aug 31, 2013 at 21:01
Saturday, Aug 31, 2013 at 21:01
Gary,
The difference is only in the stud pattern.
There are no Landcruiser or Nissan hubs as such, it is only the stud pattern either 5 or 6.
Since the hub and brake drum (cast as one) is the same, it is either drilled for the 5 or 6 studs.
Any difference in the wheel offsets and inner guard clearance has to be considered. Usually just a change of the integral cast drum/hub is all you would require to go from 6 to 5 studs.
Only when there is a big change in each wheels offset, will the position of the actual hub face be an issue. And only when you discover an incompatibility would you need to change the trailing arms.
Check your offsets and If you have to get different drum/hubs. You can also change over the bearings and continue to use them too.
Or be prepared to change a tyre onto a different stud rim as mentioned. If you already have that tyre gear, there is no extra cost.
Ross M
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Follow Up By: Member - batsy - Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 14:08
Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 14:08
Gary, why not contact KK in
Ballina (phone or email) as I am sure they will be only too happy to set you on the correct path.
Cheers
Batsy
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 19:49
Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 19:49
Just one additional detail, the the rim centre cutout diam. (for 6 stud wheels) is different between the Toyota and Nissan even though the stud PCD is the same.
One wont fit the hub of the other, but I cant think which way it goes.
Batsy is putting you on the right track.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 20:35
Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 20:35
Mike 39, those cast brake Hub/ brake drum don't have a centre diameter. They simply bolt flush on the drum so they all fit each other!! Michael
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Reply By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 21:42
Sunday, Sep 01, 2013 at 21:42
Gary,
I have a Karavan which shares the same swing-arms as your Kamper so I'm reasonably familiar with the setup.
If you want to change the offset you are correct, you will need to obtain, somehow, replacement swing-arms.
However if all you want to do is change the stud pattern then I think all you need to do is change the hubs themselves.
Be advised though, that in addition to getting the stud pattern right the center spigot on the hubs must be sized to suit your new wheels. I have seen an after-market mismatch where the spigot on the hub was larger than the centre hole in the wheel so that the wheel could not
seat flat on the hub with obvious results. (Believe it or not, the wheel was fitted, the nuts tightened and the owner drove away with perhaps the world's worst wheel-wobble.)
Cheers
Frank
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