Sunday, Sep 29, 2013 at 22:25
Consider one thing.....almost without exception
suspension systems and running gear on trailers are cheap and nasty in comparrision to that you would find on motor cars, light commercials or trucks.
This accounts for a great many failures and a lot of the decisions made and configurations we see.
All too often the trailers ( all types) will be running on wheels, tyres and bearings that are running very close to maximum capacity....the manufacturers and the buyers simply don't want to spend the extra $$$ to build a decent safety margin into their wheels bearings, axles, wheels and tyres....no matter how expensive the trailer.
All too often the suspensions are cheap and crude, in comparision to the tow vehicle.
If leaf springs are used are short, stiff and pretty poor quality......thus they ride poorly.
Mostly there are no shock absorbers, and if there are they have been fitted as an after thaught, mounted in an inefficient manner and not enginereed to match
the springs or the load carried.
Then there are the independent suspensions.....some of them horrify me, the worst are as crude as the worst leaf spring systems fabbed up by some muppet with a welder possibly in a third world country.
The best may be fair but no where near the standard found in even the simplest motor vehicles.
Sorry to be a pesimist......but the quality of the suspenion system and its adequacy to do the job is more important than the number of wheels.
That said
Biigger wheels and tyres will always ride better and carry more load.
Longer springs will always ride smoother.....good luck finding a trailer with long springs.
Properly selected shock absorbers, properly fitted make a big difference.
Good quality wheels and tyres, correctly inflated and run
well within their limits rarely fail.
Good quality, properly maintained bearings run
well under their capacity rarely fail.
a single axle trailer will be a little easier to reverse and manover....less prone to scrub and crab.
A two or three axle trailer will ride over bumps far better
a rig with 2 wheels will generally be lighter than one with 4 or 6.
If buying an trailer with independent
suspension....ask, where do I get spare parts.
There are some fairly good generally available independedent systems, that have good parts availablity......there are also those that are exclusive to a particular trailer company.
How is the support from that trailer company, and what happens if the company goes bust or changes the
suspension they use.
A bloke I knew got into all sorts of strife when he could not get spares for a broken independent suspenion system.....he ended up replacing the whole
suspension system to get his van back on the road......in a 12 month old van.
Unfortunately
suspension systems on trailers are like politicians....you are selecting the best from a bad bunch and very rarely are they properly up to doing the whole job.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Sep 30, 2013 at 19:28
Monday, Sep 30, 2013 at 19:28
Bantam - Never were truer words spoken. The crap suspensions I see under some vans and trailers make me shudder. I reckon non-load-sharing tandem suspensions should be banned (typically, two sets of cheap-ar$e slipper springs - or worse, those mongrel rubber torsion suspensions with very little axle travel capacity).
Both of these styles of
suspension will put all the load onto one axle when travelling over uneven ground or rough roads. That immediately means overloads on axles,
suspension components, bearings, tyres, and wheel studs - way beyond any engineered design limits - not to mention the chassis itself.
The lack of shock absorbers on vans travelling on rough roads leads to a massive pummelling effect on the vans
suspension, wheels, tyres and axles, that increases wear rates on
suspension components by probably 100%.
The basic wheel bearing set for trailers and vans hasn't altered from the standard front wheel bearings, of post-WW2 cars such as the FJ Holden.
These bearings are running at their limit on todays heavier vans - and what so many people don't realise, is that there are now many bearings being sold that originate in China.
I shouldn't need to tell you what the reliability, product quality, and lifespan of Chinese bearings is!
What is worse, is that many "good brands" (Koyo is one) get their bearing supplies from Chinese suppliers! They come in a nice Koyo box and nowhere on the box is it stated where the bearings are made!
Joe my neighbouring mechanic, had two "comebacks" on Landcruiser gearboxes he overhauled. Joe is one of the finest mechanics I've had the pleasure to know.
In both cases, when he stripped the gearboxes down to rebuild them again, it was the same Koyo bearing, in the reverse idler position in the gearbox, that had failed! You ought to hear Joes opinion of Koyo bearings right about now!!
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