Hard compound Tyres? is there such a thing?

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:07
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My Wifes little Nissan pulsar had Maxxis tyres fitted all round when we purchased it,

and its always felt like Freddie Flinstones Cart to ride in, everything in the suspension side is original Nissan , and its only done a 120,000ks so its tight as a drum in that area. The daughter has one near the same model, with rubbish cheapo tyres and it rides a lot better, and a lot less road noise. Have had Maxxis Tyres on the Landcruiser and found them very good and quiet, maybe the weight difference might come into it and sound proofing ,theres not much of that in a Pulsar I can tell you. Its gets a bit annoying for the wife as she uses it every day for work and starting to whinge!, I'm whinging to! theres another three years left in those tyres, hate throwing stuff away!..Lol.

Cheers Axle.





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Reply By: Member - johnat - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:22

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:22
The various brands of tyre sometimes use different compounds for different load expectations, so the compound for a light car might be different than that for a 4WD.
Formula 1 cars have a selection of tyres of various compound for different weather conditions - a bit OTT for a road vehicle, but indicative of the variations available.

Point, I guess, is to get tyres from a reputable dealer, talk to them about your concerns and get tyres that suit your requirements.

BUT ... very soft (and hence quiet) tyres will wear much more quiclky than a harder compound, which will be noisier.
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Reply By: Rockape - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:32

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:32
Axle,
you can get some bargain basement tyres now that bathurst is over.
I can send you the names of the teams so you can get some soft compound tyres. They are a little second hand though.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:56

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:56
Thanks Mate!,, ...I'll take the ford ones thank you very much more life left in them.........Didn't they go well!

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:53

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 20:53
Gday Axle,
We've had 3 of the N15 Pulsars in the family. Best tyre by a country mile for them for us has been the Toyo Teo (we used 185/65/14).

The compound feels soft - its a silica compound - but the last set on my youngest daughter's car went easily for 60,000k. They are not the cheapest by a longshot - about $125 a tyre from Tyrepower, but they have certainly been quiet, smooth and long wearing. Other tyres we've used have been the original dunlops, Hankooks, and Bridgestones and none have been as good as the Silica compound Toyo Teos.
And no, I don't own the company!

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Axle - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:02

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:02
Thanks for that Phil, will make some enquirey,...When she really gets the poops.

Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:59

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:59
If yours is like ours, the wife's car runs normal pressures and the daughter's car never gets its pressures checked....which is why the daughter's rides smoother!
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, Oct 17, 2013 at 06:35

Thursday, Oct 17, 2013 at 06:35
Mate its mind boggling what the daughters service schedule is ...zilch!.......The strength of the pulsars!..LOL.


Axle.
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Reply By: Ross M - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:10

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:10
Axle
If it is any consolation, we have a '07 Corolla and is rides harshly/hard, no give in the tyres.
After we purchased the Corolla, a friend bought a Mitsu 380 second hand with very low K's and original tyres. Took me for a ride and it was the same.
Although the brand of tyre may be common the actual tyre designation/name will often be only available on a dealer supplied car. I cannot find the same tyres as we have.

I believe with cars and 4WD too, the manufacturers do deals and have tyres made especially for the new vehicles which are cheap and hard. They pass a roadworthy, cos they're new and no one ever questions them. Basically crap for sales purposes only.

Fit new tyres = new car.

Cheers
Ross M
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Follow Up By: Axle - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:24

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:24
I'm Thinking your onto it Ross!, Its a Pitta really!


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:56

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 21:56
The tyre profile of the newer cars keeps getting less and low profile tyres ride hard. The ZRE152 Corolla with mags has 55 profile. When I look for a small car I try to but something with standard wheels and more sidewall.

The other factor here is pressures - tyres on these vehicles feel OK at 26 psi but start getting pretty hard at 35 psi. But if you let the pressures get low, the fronts wear out on the edges.

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Follow Up By: rocco2010 - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 22:04

Wednesday, Oct 16, 2013 at 22:04
Not so sure abt crap tyres for new cars. A few years ago a friend had a Mazda 2. Bought new and came with Pirellis I think. It was the sweetest little car. Time to replace tyres she bought brand x based on price and the road noise from the new tyres was appalling. You could hardly get the stereo up loud enough.
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