Caravan Air Conditioning

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:03
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Hi,
I am looking at purchasing a 2006 Coromal Lifestyle 600 full van. It is approx 20' long and doesn't have air con.

I am limited with space in the shed and don't think I will be able to fit a roof top air con on it. The options I am looking at is the Saphir or Denso under bunk systems. Does anyone have any feedback on these systems and more importantly if they are big enough to cool the van sufficiently?

Secondly, the van is about 2.3 high and my shed is 2.6m. Can anyone tell me if there is a low profile roof air con out there that I could get that would keep under that height? This is my preferred option is height permits.

Cheers,
Jon
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Reply By: graham B9 - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:19

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:19
Hi Jon,

Do not even bother getting a caravan air con system but get a normal domestic house one. Several caravan manufacturers are now fitting them to caravans and they have several advantages. Certainly much cheaper in that they are about 1/3 the price of a Air Command system. People will say you cannot fit them because of the vibration when driving down the highway and this is rubbish. We used to fit them either to the front draw bar or the rear bumper bar of the caravan. You will nned a air con guy to connect it up for the gas but if you are a handyman you can do the fitting and the electrics.

It is a split system that I am talking about so the inside unit we usually mount above the bed. So if your bed is in the rear the outside unit will fit at the back of the van. It is far far quieter as well. Almost silent. If you are in South Australia, Humpback caravans fit them as standard when they manufacture a caravan.
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:32

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:32
Thanks Graham.

Is there a particular brand that is better for this purpose? Also what size would you recommend for a 20' van? Is there any special mounts that are needed? Sorry for all the questions lol

I am in Qld so I will try and find a van place that may fit them.
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Follow Up By: John and Regina M - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:01

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:01
I hope no-one on here suggests that it's ok for a 'handyman' to undertake an electrical installation?

Apart from fitting a plug in a socket of course.
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:47

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:47
There is no chance of me trying to do any electrical installation. My limit of expertise is changing a tap washer unfortunately. I do have a brother in law who is a sparky though so it may be a job for him
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:53

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:53
As Graham says, modern domestic split systems now have a lot of fans among vanners - very keen pricing and quite compact. One of the mainstream domestic AC suppliers in my area is promoting the Chinese Haier brand (over Panasonic) - 5 year warranty (may be void if mobile though) - had a one room unit installed in a house - seems wonderfully quiet and effective. BTW - our van rooftop's Air Command Ibis is probably the lowest profile van AC around - we gave it an extended run up at Yulara a few months back on 38C days - it was ok, but seemed to be on its cooling limit.
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:45

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:45
Thanks Darian. I have heard of Haier. I guees your probably right in regard to the warranty side of things.

By chance do you know how high above the roof your Ibis unit is? I think it may make the van too high but you never know it may fit in.
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 13:51

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 13:51
The top of our Ibis is 225mm above the roof line. I seem to recall some people swap their road wheels for low profile storage wheels, just to fit vans under tight roof lines. May be worth a look.
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:40

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:40
Brilliant thanks mate. With that height I could actually fit it under my shed. The storage wheels i'm not familiar with but will definitely check them out
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 19:38

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 19:38
Check them here Jon Caravan storage wheels

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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:17

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:17
That's excellent. Thanks for the link. I've never seen them before. That would definitley solve the height problem

Cheers,
Jon
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Reply By: Andrew D. - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:05

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:05
Fit inverter domestic split system $500 - $700
Keep to the main line brands.
Fit on A frame and gas bottles to the opposite side of electrical connections
Do all the mounting yourself and get refrigeration tech to connect cable and copper pipes. Should be no more than $250
3,5kW for Coromal 20' van as poor insulation
2,5kW for Jayco Sterling 20' as excellent insulation
If you intend to use for heating in cold zones like -2C and below only brand to buy is Mitsubishi. For cooling Panason, LG, Haier, Daiken, Samsung
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:43

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:43
Thanks Andrew. I have emailed a local refrigeration company to see if they can give me a price on installing one.

It is a bit of a worry when you say the Coromals are poorly insulated. Do you know of any issues with the Coromals?
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Follow Up By: graham B9 - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:58

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 14:58
When I worked for a caravan manufacturer we just went down to good guys and this is where we got the best price. You can also run them on a 1KVA generator as well. Air Command (Ibis) needs a 2 KVA but even more once the temp get to around 34.
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Follow Up By: jmharris - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 15:07

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 15:07
Thanks Graham. By chance would have any photos of a domestic air con installed on a van? Also what sort of weight would it add to the tow ball if it was mounted on the A frame?

The coromal has the gas bottles stored in the boot so I could put it on the front. Or is it more preferable to put it on the back bumper?
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Reply By: Member - johnat - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:53

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:53
Air con? Open windows, let air flow through. All that's required!
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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:54

Saturday, Nov 02, 2013 at 21:54
Oh, and park in the shade !
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Reply By: Member - John and Lynne - Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:07

Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:07
We have owned vans with Air Command and Dometic roof top air cons. Both have been useless at cooling and heating and both have been very noisy. Our van is 20.5 ft and very well insulated.
In the tropics we are much better off with open windows and a fan or a chair outside in the shade! We carry a fan radiator for heating in caravan parks and have installed a gas heater for camping in cold weather.
We would not advise you going to any trouble or expense to install a roof top system. Also if you van does not have one installed at factory your roof may not be appropriately reinforced so the operation could be very expensive!
Good luck. Lynne and John
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Reply By: Member - KEITH W (QLD) - Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 18:57

Monday, Nov 04, 2013 at 18:57
we have a 16ft poptop with saphir underbunk system, ducted 3 outlets in van....extremely quiet, freezing cold, it is under my single bed and doesn't bother me at all. hot air outlet goes through the floor, along with condensation.

small unit, all in one, 290 mm high.

our opinion is highly recommend.
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