Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 01:48
Steve, they're an excellent little chariot and largely trouble-free. I don't believe maintenance costs are any higher than any other brand. I would
hazard a guess that Andrews complaint about high maintainence costs might be more to do with a rip-off dealership.
Find a good independent mechanic with Subaru knowledge and you'll be sweet.
The important things with Subarus is pretty much the same as all modern car engines - timing belt, and coolant quality.
Up to 2010, the EJ25 (2.5L) engine had a timing belt. With the release of the new FB25 (2.5L) engine in late 2010, Subaru went over to a double steel timing chain, so there's one less maintainence item to worry about.
Make sure any Subaru you buy has a good record of kms covered, with no "gaps" or doubtful maintainence periods. Ensure the timing belt has been replaced as per maintainence requirements.
These engines are an interference engine, and any timing belt failure means valves contact pistons with resultant costly damage.
As regards coolant - like all modern engines, coolant additives must be maintained and coolant flushed regularly. Failure to do so results in water pump problems, head gasket problems, and engine internal corrosion problems.
Early EJ25 engines were somewhat notorious for head gasket failures due to poor gasket design. This problem was fixed by about 2003, so there should be no concern there.
Spark plugs are notoriously difficult to replace, but they don't need replacing too often, fortunately. Apart from these points, just a careful
check of the previous owners style of useage to eliminate any abuse problems, and you'll be sweet.
I always try to find out if the previous owner had a teenage son or sons - and whether they had access to the car.
Giving a vehicle to teenage males is a recipe for abuse - and generally entails exercises such as to how far the car can lay rubber - how fast it can corner without ending up on its roof - and how much it can be overloaded by, and still be driven at 150 kmh.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 20:31
Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 20:31
Hi Ron, just for interest sake I have witnessed a EJ22 suby motor with the timing belt off being spun and theres no interference,surprised a few..lol. Not sure if the later ones are any different.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 20:34
Sunday, Nov 10, 2013 at 20:34
Hi Axle - Yes, that's right, the EJ22 is a non-interference fit engine - the EJ25 was redesigned and became an interference-fit engine.
Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 06:00
Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 06:00
The 2.5 (designed for north american cheap fuel) has now also been dropped again from the aussie line up. Back to the trusty 2l again across the board.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:39
Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:39
GBC - This is news to me, news to 7 billion people around the world, and news to all Subaru engineers and salespeople, too!
I've just been organising a new 2.5L Forester for the missus, and there's 2.5L engines available in Forester, Outback,
Liberty, WRX, and WRX STI. Only the XV, BRZ and Tribeca miss out on the 2.5L engine.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:54
Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:54
The xt forester is back to 2.0 only. Forester is the first model update to come through. The new wrx is. 2.0. Highest output ever. Specs have been released.
Notice the forester is now available in 2.0 and 2.5 in the naturally aspirated range now?
The 2.5 is in run out.
I have a fair bit to do with Subaru and can
well agree that their salespeople would raise an eyebrow when asked.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 14:22
Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 14:22
It seems odd to me, that Subaru would produce an entirely new 2.5L engine (the FB25) in 2010, and then scrap it, just 3 yrs later??
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 20:16
Monday, Nov 11, 2013 at 20:16
Good question, and one I don't have the answer to. I do know that the 2.5 naturally aspirated engine does
well for it's design brief, providing decent power on not so good fuel. The turbo 2.5's have been not so good.
I would have thought going to 2.0 turbo and 2.5 na would give the better outcome.
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