Wednesday, Dec 11, 2013 at 09:29
"Please don't dig the hole deeper for yourself than you already have.
Here is a person who sells and spruik a way overpriced crude "alternator voltage booster"...... have you ever thought why vehicle manufactures set charge voltages to a certain limit, right or wrong and you're saying playing with parameter values is fought with danger! Isn't that the same as using an aftermarket or reprogrammed chip and is thats what your doing?"
Yes I change the voltage they have set to meet pollution requirements and lower fuel consumption to achieve a specific out come, exactly the same as the chippers do for your driveability issues. However my changes remain in the range specified by the manufacture as normal for the vehicle, do the chip moders?
As for crude and overpriced, it a very smart simple and cost effective alternative to than those over priced DCDC chargers you push to achieve the same end result.
Any stop try to side track the issue and keep to topic.
"By the way I don't see any of the V8 super cars fitted with chipped standard chipped production motors."
"Please stop before you embarrass yourself, V8 supercars run under a controlled class that limits engine capacity (they use a special motorsport motor),
suspension, drivetrain and everything else...... saying what you have is like saying no F1 cars are fitted with chipped standard production motors ..... you don't have to be einstein to know that, you probably don't know the V8 supercars are also six inches shorter and the back doors have been chopped.
So the V8 supercars have a standard chip in them that comes with the vehicle designed by the vehicle manufacture (Ford, Holden, Mercedes and Nissan) for the masses.....LOL LOL LOL LOL..... please stop."
It sounds like you still think you can
rock into a car dealer and by a V8 supercar of the floor, hate to tell you sunshine there is not much that can be found in a V8 supercar other than the name that is in the car you and me can by.
FYI, there is this class called modified production where the vehicles use modified chips and ecu's."
Many moons ago before it was adulterated they used production motors, of course those production motors had things like special plated pistons,special piston rings, special valves treated to withstand the heat and roller bearings etc to handle the extra power and temperatures by race fuel and the engine mods to increase power.
"Yeap I'll come clean.... I know very little about mechanical stuff and electrical so I can accept defeat when someone with vast more knowledge like yourself appears on the scene....... thats why I employ skilled tradespeople trained in the latest techniques using the latest technology......"
Yes I agree your knowledge is lacking.
The manufacture has spent thousands of hours testing, yes he's put paramatters in their that affect driveability, silly little things he decided was required to protect the motor under specific conditions or then maybe the gear box or possibly meet anti pollution requirements.
I'm sure the chip tuner has spent as much time testing, I don't think so, he's put the car on a dyno, change the data to screw the maximum power he can out of it and or torque to meet the customers requirements.
I've seen the results of high performance tuning, the holes in pistons, the burnt valves, the the manifolds with holes burnt in them, broken crank shafts and bent valve gear caused by as you said "you can change the RPM's" funny that's another of those safety measures the manufacturer puts in.
Even the chip makers tell you that chipping can compromise the life of the engine and recommend EGT probes etc, why to stop the motor self destructing! Of course more relevant to turbo or diesel engines where worth while power increases are concerned not for a miserly 6% as bove.
At least in the old days when engines where performance tuned they also carried out the mechanical alterations required to handle the power increase.
Get real, get your head out the sand, if someone wants to chip fine, I've got one myself for my turbo diesel, I'm prepared to where the fact that it will probably reduce it's engine life and could cause other problems, its most likely non compliant with pollution laws now else why would the chip manufacture say for race track use only, and that it could affect the life of the gear box etc. I'll take the risk for the added power.
Jeez you do carry on at times trying to side track the issue to prove how superior you are, just like a toddler having a temperature tantrum because he couldn't get his own way.
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