Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 20:48
Wombat - Find out where the
tools are made and choose accordingly.
Made in China and Made in India - very average quality and designed as sets you won't miss if they're lost or stolen.
Chinese and Indian
tools rarely use proper-quality tool steel that is correctly hardened and tempered. They use carbon steel that can be hardened, which makes them brittle and liable to snap or split under heavy pressure.
"Proper" tool steel is chrome-vanadium alloy steel (Cr-V), and the better tool steels have additional elements added, such as Molybdenum and Nickel. Chrome-Moly-Vanadium steel is one of the best around.
Chinese and Indian
tools have poor fit tolerances. That is, they don't fit
the nut or bolt with the accuracy of a quality tool.
There will be a substantial degree of "slop" when the tool slips over
the nut or bolt head. Quality
tools are a neat fit over nuts and bolts, thus allowing better grip and less chance of rounding the head, and less chance of splitting the tool.
Chinese
tools suffer from serious QC problems, and therefore highly varying quality.
You might get a good set, your mate will get a dud set.
Taiwanese tools - Most satisfactory-to-good quality tools, today come from Taiwan. Many Taiwanese
tools offer a lifetime warranty. Taiwanese
tools are often branded with a local company name, because they're made and branded to suit the buyers demands.
Typical Taiwanese brands are ETC, Kincrome, Sidchrome, Repco, SP, Teng, Kingcraft, Ampro, Minimax, Fuller, Tradequip, and many others.
The last Sidchrome tool was made in Australia in 1996. Sidchrome was bought out by
Stanley and production moved to Taiwan.
Teng is a premium-quality Taiwanese tool line that is priced accordingly.
Be aware that some "Taiwanese" tools are actually made in China, and the quality can be doubtful and variable.
Japanese and American tools - Premium Grade - The finest tool brands today are Ko-Ken (Japan) and Snap-On, Bondhus, Wright, and Proto (U.S.A.). They are priced accordingly, with Snap-On prices being quite outrageous, as compared to other top brands.
The materials difference in these
tools is the tool steel quality and heat treatment. These manufacturers specify their own tool steel constituents, and the steel manufacturers manufacture the steel specifically to their specification. The manufacturer then heat-treats and temper the tool steel to their own specific, usually secret, processes.
The design difference in these top
tools is that they fit snugly in your hand and feel much better to handle. Grip areas are carefully designed to provide good grip. Chrome plating is much heavier, with nickel plating followed by triple chrome plating not unusual.
The final product is polished to a high standard.
The 4 above-named U.S. brands are still made in the U.S.A. Ko-Ken is still made in Japan.
Caterpillar tool sets are made by Proto and Snap-On for Caterpillar, and you pay a premium again for the Caterpillar name.
Williams
tools are a division of Snap-On and priced accordingly.
There are other American
tools that are normally good quality - but you have to be careful, because these companies will nowadays slip in foreign-made
tools into their product line, because they have gone "global".
These brands are OTC, Vermont American, Armstrong, Blackhawk, Ampro, Craftsman, Crescent, Lisle, Gearwrench, Mac, SK,
Stanley, and OTC. They all used to be on a par with Proto - but a lot of these brands products are now made in Taiwan and other countries - such as China.
If you can find the above names that are actually made in the U.S.A., they are good quality - but be aware of devious labelling, such as a prominent U.S. flag, and fine print that says - "box made in U.S.A., contents made in China"!
Channellock are made in the U.S.A, and are a premium product - but they only make pliers and sidecutters.
Irwin is made in the U.S.A., but specialise only in blades, bits, cutting and snipping pliers and their original-design, locking Vise-Grips. Genuine Vise-Grips are twice as good as the Chinese copies.
German, Swedish and British tools - Once again, if made in these countries, the quality is top-class. However most of the companies in these countries are now "global" corporations, and you can get varying quality.
At one time, Bahco, Dowidat, Britool, King Dick, Gedore, Heyco, Stalhwille and NWS were undisputed quality.
However, today, you need to
check to see if the item is actually made in Sweden, Germany or the U.K.
Knipex is still made in Germany and commands a premium price for their large plier range.
My toolbox contains U.S.-made Blackhawk, Proto, Bondhus, Caterpillar, OTC and Wright tools - some Australian-made Sidchrome (bought many years ago) - Knipex pliers - a few Ko-Ken tools - as
well as a range of Taiwanese brands such as Minimax, SP, Fuller, Kingcraft and Gearwrench. IMO, Ko-Ken
tools are the highest quality
tools around, but they're hard to find, and not cheap. Bondhus make superb, virtually unbreakable Allen Key (Hex Key) sets, and they're not overly expensive if you find the right eBay seller.
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 21:59
Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 21:59
Ron,
I wish you would just keep your comments to stuff you know something about ;-)
Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Justin O (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 23:34
Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 23:34
Her Ron sounds like you've done a Ph.d on tools. Do you know a brand ABC made in Japan? I've had a set if ring spanners since 1980 and have never let me down. Trips across Australia pulled down and rebuilt engines etc.
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Follow Up By: yarda - Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 23:41
Sunday, Dec 15, 2013 at 23:41
Ron, just for info, most of the snap on is Chinese or south American made nowadays, their best
tools are the multi grips, side cutters and pliers - because they are rebranded French made Facom. I cherish my old snap on
tools but will never spend a cent on the current range.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 00:28
Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 00:28
Justin - I've never heard of or seen Japanese ABC tools, but there are a huge number of brands out there. Sadly, a lot of Japanese hand tool makers folded up, or went the "global" route in the 1990's, and farmed out production to other countries.
I have a wall chest of Japanese made "ETC" tools in the garage at
home, that I bought in 1990, and they are very good, but not Ko-Ken quality.
As with many others, ETC shifted production to Taiwan, then they disappeared off the market altogether about the late 1990's.
Around 1986, I bought a set of 4 Japanese-made "A.O.K." crowfoot bars. The steel quality was astounding, so I ordered another set.
The next set that arrived was in a box marked "A.O.K." - but this set was made in China - and they were nothing more than "chewing gum", to my utter disappointment! I reckon they would have made mild steel look like high-tensile steel!
I also once purchased a "Taiwan-made" 1/2" drive, 250mm extension bar. Tightening some head studs one day, the square on the end of the bar screwed right off!!
Obviously, this bar was from China, not Taiwan!
Nonetheless, it still does duty in my toolbox today - as a nice, large, soft punch!! LOL
Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 00:30
Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 00:30
Yarda - Yes, I've seen a jack-repair
shop, full of Snap-On floor jacks, all in for repairs under warranty.
They were all made in China, and the Chinese substituted cheap hard-plastic seals, for the specified nylon, nitrile, and neoprene seals.
All the jacks failed within about 6 mths from new, and the jack man assured me it was costing Snap-On a fortune to remedy the problems.
The "global corporation" thing is a curse, particularly when they take steps to hide the real place of manufacture.
Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 07:40
Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 07:40
Some Sidchrome
tools are also made in France these days too.
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