Putting annexe walls on an electric awning

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:16
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Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has an electric awning they have annexe walls on. We have just bought a van with a carefree elite awning that has a kind of concertina arm that comes out (sorry I dont know how else to explain it!) and would like to have an annexe made. Thinking the doors have to go on the long side and not the ends? And that it would need poles of some kind for stability at the corners as the arm don't detach to make the leg? Kinda wish I'd thought this through before we bought it!
Any help greatly appreciated. :)
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 14:13

Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 14:13
I have had the same electric awning on my 24 foot caravan for 5 years - I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
For mine I have made 2 end rails and 2 end posts plus 2 racketing tension straps.
If you use these, then you must then add 3 or 4 intermediate cambered roof beams to shed the water.
This is because an electric awning can’t have one corner dropped to shed the water.
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Follow Up By: Shaz'n'Baz - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:33

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:33
Thanks for your reply Dennis. Kinda stuck with it now! The awning is a carefree eclipse and apparently has 6 setting so you can set it up with one end lower than the other to address the water run off issue. With yours by end rails do you mean like the aussie traveller anti flap type set up?
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 16:23

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 16:23
I can't drop one end of my awning - must be a recent enhancement.
I made up the end rails out of 20mm tube inserted into 25mm tube with a tensioning device made from I/2 inch threaded rod.
A 6 mm spigot was welded to each end.
Close to underside of awning about 50mm in from edge, 7 mm hole drilled into caravan through a 3mm aluminium reinforcing plate.
Then 7 mm hole then drilled into awning roller.
End rail spigots fitted into the 7 mm holes and tensioned up tightly.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 17:05

Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 17:05
We had one on our first van. It was damaged in a wind storm and had to be replaced under insurance.
We asked for and was given a rollout version. No extra charges.

Maybe you need to look for a storm .....

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Follow Up By: Shaz'n'Baz - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:35

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:35
Haha. Thanks for the tip bbuzz.
Storms scare me a little since the kids trampoline almost came through our bedroom window one night!
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 20:28

Sunday, Dec 29, 2013 at 20:28
We lived in a 'van for 6 years back in the early '80's and had an annexe(not electric of course) and a full set of walls. As we were shifting camp every 3-5 days, we only ever put up the annexe roof, and the end wall, on the western end.(we always parked the van east-west)

Wind.......or storms, were always a worry, so the less canvas we had unfurled the better. Also, the full walls provided little ventilation, so the roof and end wall were enough to provide some shade, and keep the entry side of the van cooler.

Ha ha, we'd just been to Mt Isa to do some shopping for new baby we had. Wife had washed all the new gear, and it was hanging on the line. Huge whirly-wind went straight through the camp, folded the annexe over the roof of the van, and the newly washed items were spread all over the place, bar a few pairs of pilchers which went with the whirly-wind, never to be seen again.

So I'd say keep it to a minimum, and keep that simple.

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Follow Up By: Shaz'n'Baz - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:47

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:47
Thanks for your reply. We live in Tassie so the majority of our caravanning is here. Keeping the heat out isn't so much of an issue. A full annexe is really a must for us for extra space (extra fridge, teenagers etc) and somewhere out of the weather if need be. At this stage we usually go somewhere for a couple of weeks and set up there for the duration.
I didn't mention before but we have had a van for about ten years so this new (second hand) one is just an upgrade. We've always had annexe walls that attached to our roll out awning and we are kinda used to having one I guess. Hopefully we can sort something.

Oh and I'm guessing you didn't leave camp with washing still on the line any more!
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 19:29

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 19:29
Shan n Baz,

Definitely horses for courses then, didn't realise you were down on that little island, just north of Antarctica :-)

Yeah, I'd be opting for all the walls too, and a wind sheet along the bottom of the van as well. We were working/living on Barkly Tablelands in NT, so real cold wasn't an issue.

Hope you work out something suitable,
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Reply By: Member - mike g2 - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:47

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:47
Hi Shaz, I know what you mean as I have a power annexe on my fiat jayco MH. do you really want to "weatherproof" enclose with doors/windows as well? try local c/van shop for opinion, when not built for that may be in too hard basket.
you could look at DIY with some C channel att to outside and some shade cloth on a runner if that would suffice. fit base plates ( click ins)for both ends to van and extendable poles to go out and complete the square. fit same extendables as verticals . fair point about water shedding also. most annexes subject to weather /wind .
all the best!
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Follow Up By: Shaz'n'Baz - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:55

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:55
Thanks mike g2.
We are in Tassie so a 'weatherproof' enclosure is kind of necessary!
We've always had and used a full annexe on our van that attached to our roll out awning. We are just upgrading to a Jayco Sterling that has a Carefree Eclipse motorised awning. It apparently has 6 setting so one end can go lower for water run off. Would you think fitting the aussie traveller anti flap system to the roof to attach walls and then using your idea for the verticals would give it enough stability? Just wondering about having enough structure on the long roller edge of the awning once the walls are on.
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Reply By: Shaz'n'Baz - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 18:56

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 18:56
Apologies, the awning is actually a carefree eclipse. I have added a link (I hope it works)

Carefree Awning
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Follow Up By: Member - mike g2 - Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 13:32

Friday, Jan 03, 2014 at 13:32
looking at photo, it looks like you could add an aluminium C tube to roller on outside edge . similar system to cafe blinds with a pull rope built in within the edge, used to slide on/in and att to C section. Check out the Aliminium extrusion strips avail at big hardware shops. concertina style support may make it a bit challenging to put on waterproof sides, using flap clip ons to att. looks possible. could try sewing on strips of velcroe to awning, annexe ? . will need to check that whatever is done will fit/go when awning retracted. vertical extension poles should be avail from c/van part dealers such as Camec, will need to find a way to att. will need to stabilise the whole thing as well with tie lines. lots of fiddling !
recommend see an agent/dealer .
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Follow Up By: Shaz'n'Baz - Sunday, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:46

Sunday, Jan 05, 2014 at 08:46
Thanks mike g2. Will check that out. We are taking it away for a few days soon. Will see what we can come up with over a beer or 2 :-)
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