Bikes on vans

Mind you - being able to see them would appear to be a good thing.

Saw one guy looking for a camp a bit late one day - had 2 bikes on the back of his Jayco somethingorother and every bump in the road the bike wheels were scrapping. Can only imagine what sort of damage he'd done!

But as Bantam said I doubt it is illegal to not be able to see them.
So long as the vehicle's number plate is visible I very much doubt you'll have any problems. Not sure how legal those home made ones attached to the bikes are???

To be totally legal in Qld with a bike carrier on a car it must have a bike attached or if not it has to be removed
As for the number plate you have to buy a plate from the Transport dept home made ones are illegal
I would think the same rules would apply to a van except if it makes the van over length
I assume the illegal bit you asked about is with no bike attached
Kev

The published guidelines, you may see on the QLD transport web site are more aimed at bike carriers fitted to tow bars on the rear of pasenger vehicles...the idea and intent is pretty narrow.

When you start talking about trailers, caravans and motorhomes..AND you look at the source legeslation and regulations.

Things get a little less straight forward.

Lots of people attache things and effectivly extend their caravans and motorhomes with no concern for what they are doing.

I've seen plenty of caravans extended with permanent rear bumpers that carry all sorts of stuff
Beta ya the caravan has not been recomplianced at the new length.

I've know there are plenty of caravans that have quite a lot of stuff attached and accessories fitted post manufacture.....bet they have not been recomplinaced for tare weight...beta many of them are overloaded..some even with the cupbords empty.

Even on the simplest view, many of these bikes as carried simply do not represent adequate load restraint or proper safe carrage of a load.

IF a load no matter what it is, is properly carried and restrained, you should not have to "be able to see" or "watch" that load.
Proper loading procedues and periodic inspection should be sufficient.

cheers

You may also find that, these bike carries would otherwise be considered illegal....but the road authorities consent to allow them on a single case basis.

Like fishing rod holders.....they plainly do not comply with vehicle standards, but the road authorities consent to alow them to be used under conditions.

While I doubt that you would be in any trouble carrying a bike properly loaded on a vehicle tow bar....see how you go carrying a wheel barrow or a motormower there.

cheers