Entry Level Winches

Submitted: Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:28
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Hi All,

I'm trying to find out some information about winches. Im looking to get one shortly but want some advice on which ones are better value for money then others. I would say i go off road once a month, so I'm not looking for the best of the best just one that is a reasonable price and will do the job on the rare occasion that i require it. I've seen some as cheap as $500 from Tigerz11 and been quoted $2600 for a Warn at Arb. Interested in peoples experiences with different winches.
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Reply By: Member - Chris_K - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 13:38

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 13:38
Hi

I've usually found that when it comes to things like winches, that you get what you pay for. I have heard that some of the cheaper winches are not all that water proof, so when you actually need them to work - they can seize. Like you, we looked at most makes and models, and in the end decided to bite the bullet and get a Warn winch. I figured that when you actually needed a winch - that's the wrong time to think about how much money you could have saved. Others may have a different view of course. The other thing that we did was got Plasma rope instead of wire...great stuff and much easier to use than wire - and much stronger apparently. I have to say that we have only used the winch in the past to rescue others - but it's nice to know it's there when I need it!

Chris
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 13:47

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 13:47
I too bit the bullet and paid for a Warn for the reliability but they are one of the worst for water ingress and need to be run regularly so they don't seize up
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Follow Up By: Member-George (WA) - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 14:11

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 14:11
I agree 100% with the comment made above. Excellent advise. Don't compromise on price, get a good quality winch. Cheers
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:09

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:09
Most of the winch problems posted on 4wd forums seem to relate to Warn winches than any other - they do not seem to be anymore reliable than the cheapies however there is a caveat on that.

While the components used on the cheap winches seem to be OK how they are assembled and the lubricants used is a a bit hit and miss. The trick with them is to spend an afternoon doing a basic dismantle - change the grease/oil to a good quality version, tighten/locktight nuts and bolts where appropriate, seal the solenoid/winch with a good quality sealant (I would do this with a new Warn as well).

If used correctly and maintained they should give good service. The stories of them not working when left a while also applies to Warns - not the winches fault - is lack of preventative maintenance after the last use or just a dunking.

Garry
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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:12

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:12
This advice is 110% spot on.
What other people think of me is none of my business.
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:09

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:09
I brought an Ironman 12000lb winch for $799 6 years ago. I figured that at a third of the price I could replace it if it broke a few time and still be in front. Well I am still waiting for it to fail. I run the winch out and back every three months and as soon as possible after being in water. I would think looking after your winch, no matter what brand, is the secret.
Check other posts but very few have a good word for Tigerz11. Ironman are well known for standing behind there products. What ever you get ensure that the seller stand behind their product should it fail.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 17:31

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 17:31
Idler Chris, your last sentence sums it up. The warranties floated about are of little use if you can't get service with them or if you need to remove the winch from your vehicle and arrange a courier interstate and refitting yourself again on its return some weeks later to have a warranty repair done.
I went through that with one of those popular magazine advertised ones and whilst the winch was fine when it is working I can see situations when on tour that that is not an acceptable or viable process.
On that basis I shelled out the extra coin on a Warn as I know that there is service agents Australia wide
I have paid a premium to have that piece of mind as it suits my circumstances but understand it is not for everyone.
As Chris has said ,the main thing is to look at it after sales service issues in making your selection. They are all good when they work, it is the process of what happens when they don't you want to look into IMO
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Reply By: Ste_Lux - Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:43

Monday, Jan 27, 2014 at 15:43
Thanks a lot for all the feed back, just the information and advice I was looking for.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: abqaiq - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:15

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:15
FYI- 4wdaction did an article on 10 electric winches some time ago [I don't have the date]. Battle of the Winches, that may e of interest to you if you haven't looked that over yet. Some interesting test concepts.

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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 06:42

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 06:42
Just to make your decision a little harder - I recently transplanted an aldi winch from an old ute to a new one. I had to take it apart to rotate the gearbox and to mount the controller differently. After 5 years on the other ute there was nothing to service or change.
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Follow Up By: mbw650 - Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 15:23

Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 15:23
Another thumbs up from me for the Aldi, purchased one on the basis of all I could afford at the time. Had the intention of replacing with brand name when it died, bloody thing keeps on going.
Wife won't let me replace it until it dies, have totally abused it and pushed it hard regularly over 5 + years.
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Reply By: Penchy - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 08:06

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 08:06
Bit of a write up in the below link that should answer some questions. Take your time to read it, it's worth it.

http://www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/general-4x4-discussion/25959-winch-warrantys-who-support-when-walk.html

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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:31

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:31
What a mob of lazy people no one mentioned a hand/tirfor type winch. They never have any water ingress problems. They can pull you back out of the bog whereas an electric winch only pulls you deeper into the bog. They're a site cheeper than electrics and keep you fit.... sorry I forgot your a mob of lazies.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:51

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:51
Hand winches are quite effective but hard work.
There are many on this forum who have health issues (lung problems, older aged or other disabilities) who simply could not operate a hand winch.
Power winches are then the only alternative if they wish to go into adverse country.

I find you last bit of the last sentence extremely insulting and would have described my reaction to it in other words but they would have been bleeped out by our site moderators.
Mind your manners.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:25

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:25
Thanks Disco, don't think i could have said that as nicely as yourself.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 15:34

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 15:34
I make no appologies for facts.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 15:51

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 15:51
Rod,
The facts are
1. You don't have to be apologetic for facts, yes the hand winches are effective, useful and easy to transport.
2. They are very hard work for people with disabilities

3. The bit about being lazy is an assumption by you and is bloody wrong. You have no right to assume that, given you don't know who reads your post.

4. You need a lesson in manners.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:35

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:35
I agree with you Rod W, I am lazy as I have both and have never used the Tirfor once. Just pure lazy, like you said why pull yourself into the bog when you can use a tirfor to extract yourself from the rear.
And lighten up Disco you are taking it to hart a bit to much. As I am lazy and so are others (not all) on this site. So don't assume anything as you could be wrong.
Cheers Andy
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:55

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:55
"disco driver posted:
Rod,
The facts are
1. You don't have to be apologetic for facts, yes the hand winches are effective, useful and easy to transport.
2. They are very hard work for people with disabilities

3. The bit about being lazy is an assumption by you and is bloody wrong. You have no right to assume that, given you don't know who reads your post.

4. You need a lesson in manners.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

Disco."

Well said Disco!
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 05:59

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 05:59
Still have a crank handle on the front of your car Rod W?

I was taught to "work smarter, not harder"
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 09:25

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 09:25
No... I've got two leg holes through the floor and I've got to run like....
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 16:16

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 16:16
Hahaha, the Flintstones was one of my favourites.
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Reply By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:00

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:00
I purchased a 12000lb chinese jobbie thru ebay just on 10 years ago ($450)when I upgraded from a 8000 lb due to purchase of camper trailer .
It is now fitted on its third vehicle . 2 x 80series and now the 79 ute.
about 12 months after I purchased it I had trouble free spooling and when pulled down the 3 bolts in internal brake had worked loose
retighten and a bit of loctite and no reoccurance .
I have had to clean up the solinoid pack( clean away rust from connections) a few times over the years but do a fair few river crossings.
have rotated gearbox on change of vehicle to mount and found perfectly clean inside.
did break the wire cable on one recovery when doing an unsuccessful snatch block hookup. eventually got out of the creek at the farm with the help of a 100+ hp 4wd tractor.
prices have come down so much I am considering another but with rope this time
Unless you want to use it in competition vehicle the name brands are not worth it.
all winches need some preventive mtce and regular checking.
cheers
Howard
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Follow Up By: abqaiq - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 23:10

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 23:10
4wdaction did a 10 electric winch comparison some time ago, might be worth a look. Most gat real hot on a 30 meter pull and water in the motors during test. Interesting test procedure.

We had hydraulic in Saudi [sold vehicle] and will have one again in Oz. Waterproof equals sandproof. Lighter, simpler and runs all day.

Abqaiq
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 06:27

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 06:27
LOL here is the star rating system for all 4wdaction product reviews.

*.......Manufacturer rarely advertises with EMG group
**......Manufacturer take small ads or occasional, intermittent ads
***....Frequently advertises
****..Places full page ads regularly
*****.Places double page ads or is part owned by EMG group.

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Follow Up By: Swaggee - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 15:00

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 15:00
Arrgh Boobook sorry but I just can't stop lmao...

Thumbs up.
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Follow Up By: walruz - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 17:53

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 17:53
Boobook spot on.
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Follow Up By: MactrolPod - Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:01

Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:01
That star rating is spot on and gave me a grin, good onya Boobook.

We all know that so why do they keep treating us like bleeding idiots.

Refuse to have anything to do with EMG group because of their attitude.

I was shown that winch comparison, the Warn was over all the best but came third due to its cost.

Price is irrelevant in a product test, if its is best it should be at the top of the list.

After that its up to the consumer to decide where they want to spend their hard earned dollars.
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