Tyre repairs

You can also use a normal 12v compressor. Just put a strap around the trye and tighten to create a seal and pump away.

G'Day Rob,
I've been lucky enough to have only ever suffered one flatty out bush and that was due to under inflation rolling the tyre off the rim.

I reseated mine by wrapping a ratchet tie down strap aroung the circumferance of the tyre and applying a light smear of vaseline around the bead. As you tighten the strap, the side walls flare out and the vaseline not only provides a lubricant to help seating the bead, but also acts as a temporary seal to enable a build up of air.

It worked for me.... not sure how reliable or repeatable it is though.

Fab.

Bushy it can be done, most tyre repair places will have the bits needed.
Reckon keep the air hose as short as possible and a large bore, also if you can find hose end fittings with minimal or no restriction.
The idea to get as much air flow as possible.
Take the valve out of the tyre to be re-seated too.
Pump the "donor" tyre up as hard as possible.
Years ago Jack Absolum did a TV series, he pumped the spare of his Sigma to 90psi and using a double ended hose he reinflated his tyres.
Strap or rope around the tyre helps too.

Hi Rob

Firstly have you ever changed a tyre, let alone in the bush?

You will need to carry good quality gear and a compressor is a must. If you doit your way, what happens if you suffer a second damaged tyre?

Not unless the tyre is damaged daily bad, there is no reason at all to take the tyre from the rim, as the plug kits that you get these day, if done correctly, will out last the life of your tyre.

Sounds like you are trying to make hard work for yourself. But to answer your question, I have never tried your way before, but I would think that you would not have enough air, and yes I have changed tyres many a time out in the bush and the compressor made easy work of it.

Invest in a good plug set and a good compressor and they will be your best friend.


Cheers


Stephen

Gday Rob,
You need an airhose with clips on each end - the clips must be capable of high flow (and remain open when valve cores are absent) as the valve cores at both ends need to be removed. I modified an ARB speedy deflator to make mine. I also slipped in a 3-way connector with a schraeder valve on the sideline so I can have the pump going at the same time.

There are many reasons why people have trouble reinflating tubeless, and with tyre changing practice most of these problems go away:
#1 Tyre width relatively small - eg reinflating a 265 tyre is easy on a 7" rim, but difficult on an 8" rim.
#2 Tyre bead gets distorted out of shape by heavy handed use of tyre irons. This happens because people don't use lube for removal, don't sit the opposing side properly in the well, attempt too much at a time with the lever, or they try to remove the tyre over the inside of the rim, not the outside.
#3 They remove the whole tyre, when a patch repair is easily done with both beads broken and just the outside bead levered off the rim. Lots of distortion can happen when removing the inside bead.

To reinflate - the vast majority of tyres that have been properly levered off can be reinflated with a good pump. In my younger days I would reinflate car size tubeless tyres with a handpump. Pumps these days have great flow rates compared with what I used in the past, and make it all easier, if you've had the practice.

Everyone says to wrap a strap around the tread to compress it (usually they have never tried it). This is something I did in the past because it worked well on crossply tyres. But its next to useless on the steel belt radials of today - those steel belts don't compress, so the beads do not get pushed out - if you keep compressing the strap, the tread just buckles.

I used to carry a 16" bike tube to aid reinflation by sealing around the bead - but have never needed it.

A tyre plug kit will keep you rolling without lifting a jackhandle or tyre lever - these kits are probably safer than a dodgy patch repair. But good plug insertion requires practice too.

Practice in the driveway at home before you leave!

any sort of soap (like dishwashing liquid) works a treat to help make a seal as you pump it up to seat the tyre on the rim

Have a look at http://xdrive.com.au/spareair/

He sells a tool Spareair which connects to spare tyre and can be used to reseat tyres as well as a few other things

Richard

Never mind the butane just get a $2-50 can of hairspray from your Crazy Clarkes or other el cheapo outlet. I have even used it in place of Aerostart on in a cold diesel motor. Don't throw the empty can in the campfire or you may have the anti terrorist squad visiting.

Hi all thanks for all the advice.
Thanks Richard, Sparair is exactly what I was looking for.
I have a compressor, tyre levers and bead breaker, also many patches etc, so this device will complete my kit.


Thanks again to everyone who responded

Rob

Tyre repairs can be an unfortunate consequence of outback travel. Often, simple precautions and a healthy dose of common sense can prevent the necessity. Being prepared can also make things a damn site more bearable should the need arise.

I've used vapour explosions to reseat a tyre in certain circumstances and while the method has risk, it can be very effective method when others have failed. I don't condone its use however it remains an effective option should the need arise.


Food for thought ( and I don't drink beer or wear thongs ;-)

A anybody who has done a bit manual tyre changing will tell you...the single biggest help is "plenty of fat"....and when they say plenty they mean plenty...too much fat may just be enough.
The less experience, the bigger the tyre and the smaller you are, the more fat will be just enough.

Lots of whatever lubricant is available on the tyre rim and bead.

Best to avoid mineral based greases on rubber components if at all possible.
Realy stiff soapy water can be easily made with normal soap or dishwshing liquid.

In the past lard would have been the "fat" of choice, these days the commercial tyre fat is more of a waxy sort of compound, not unlike floor polish.

As for flattening one tyre to seat another......I doubt very much that you will get sufficient air flow......it may be a viable idea if you have a pissy compressor or are hand pumping..but if you cant seat a bead with a good compressor, I doubt the other tyre will be much help.

In the tyre industry, particuarly with truck tyres they use a tyre reseater.
This looks pretty much like a 9Kg gass botte with a flat nozzle and a big vlave.
The aparatus is pumped up to like 90psi.
The tyre is inflated as best as can with a compressor.....the nozzle of the "chuffer" is then directed between the rim and the bead and the valve opened quickly.....if sucsessfull the tyre bead seats in a big hurry.
This operation though common does have its dangers.

Another method that can and will seat some tyres.....with some sucsess.
with the compressor running and the bead sort of almost seating.

either belt the tyre with a big heavy hammer, or if the tyre and rim are small enough bounce it on the ground hard.

though there are issues.

Mythbusters tried the butane tyre seating method and found it proved..i have not tried it.

cheers

If you really want to get serious about this have a look at this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzbW1gszGQY


Now this is a great toy :)


Richard

See below The hose assembly and core removal tool looks like a good option as well

http://www.airtecaustralia.com.au/airtec-parts/air-chucks/