17" wheels for caravan

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 21:34
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I am in the process of having a new van built and would have preferred 17" wheels with stud pattern to interchange with my LC100 Sahara.

However the van manufacturer tells me that caravan wheels for van (ATM around 3200 kgs) must be rated as 900kgs per wheel.

Tyres are no problem, many choices rated more than that but WHEEELS?.

Anyone any idea of who makes a 900 kg rated 17" wheel?

Andrew W
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Reply By: Robert H2 - Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 21:45

Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 21:45
Andrew,

Try ROH, they make a series for Landcruisers 100/200 series.

http://www.roh.com.au/4x4-series-rtx-lc-100-200-silver.php

Many tyre retailer can supply. Load rating is 1000Kgs.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 22:14

Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 22:14
The 17" 200series wheels will fit the 100series (same 60mm offset and stud pattern).
Toyota sell the genuine 200 series steel wheels for around $140 each new. I don't know exactly what the rating is, but its more than 900 kgs.

The 200series 17" factory mags are 1250kg I am led to believe.

The steel Dynamic 17x8 wheels on my Tvan are 30mm offset and have 1400kgs stamped on them - but they will stick out 30mm more if fitted to your 100series.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 06:00

Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 06:00
Yep egg zackey.

The Toyota 200 steel rims are rated at 1250kg and have the same offset ( P60) and stud pattern ( 5 x 150) as the Sahara 100.

You can get the wheels for $110 if you press the dealers. They generally take a day or two to get into stock.

Also not many after market rims are rated to 1250kg, a requirement of the 200. If you buy these wheels, then upgrade to a 200 or sell the van then they are still compatible.
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Follow Up By: JAX W - Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:00

Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:00
Good luck finding a Toyota rating for their 200 Series 17" rims!!

A few years ago I upgraded the ATM on our van from 3500kg hoping to reach 4500kg. The limiting factor was the 200 Series Alloy rims fitted. NO ONE at Toyota would tell us what the load rating was. I tried every possible approach, including Toyota Japan. They would not tell me.

Yes, the tyres must be rated at 1250kg, but that does not relate to wheel load rating (would you believe).

My Engineer then had to rely on Axle ratings on the 200 Series, resulting in a "wheel rating" of 975kg.

You would expect that Toyota must know what the 200 Series rims are rated at, but certainly would not share that information with us.

Good luck.

Regards, Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:32

Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:32
LOL I went through that merry go round too. About the best answer you can get from Toyota is "refer to the owners manual"

However I am talking about the steel Toyota rims, not the Alloy ones.

Either way the OP needs 950kg so should be ok. Also you need to secure a loan from the world back to get the alloy OE wheels, $900 ea is about par. Even wreckers want $600 or more. The steelies can be had from a dealer for $110.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 22:49

Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 22:49
Andrew,

I have these steel wheels on my Bushtracker.

Gecko Wheels Victoria

I chose 17"X8" with a zero offset so that they would fit the van and could be used as a last resort spare on my 200 Series (I realise you have a 100, and there may be slight differences).

Trawl through the website and maybe give them a ring (03 9988 9820 ) and see what they have that would suit your situation. Ask them about ratings etc.

Also, for info, I chose these tyres to put on them: Hero Dynastorm A/T Tyres

Well priced at $175 each when I bought them, things may have changed a little now with the Aussie dollar dropping, but they have carried my BT from Perth to Cooktown (QLD) and back without any issues at all. There is an outlet in Victoria.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 23:15

Wednesday, Feb 26, 2014 at 23:15
None of these trailer manufacturers realy want to do anything out of the ordinary.

This guy has tried to fob you off with out even thinking.

Start by looking at the load rating on the tyre plackard of your vehicle....104 is 900Kg.
If the original tyres on your vehicle have a load rating of 104 or higher the wheels MUST be rated accordingly.

Then go to your glovebox manual...some where in there there will be the information regarding towing and loading.....there should be a maximum permissable load capaity for the rear axle.

If it is over 1800Kg...or even close...... the wheels have to be rated accordigly.

Come on now..it would have to be a pretty piss B&$@#Y poor landcruser wheel to be rated less than 900Kg.

One thing to make very sure of.

If you are specifying other than the wheels the trailer manufactuer uses every day.

Make sure the width and off set are accounted for and if necessary the axle length is corrected.

Bet ya boots they just want to fit the same axle they use on every other trailer and they don't want to think about offsets and they certainly do not want to buy a single special axle.


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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 16:32

Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 16:32
Yeah well the GVM of the 200 series is only around 3350kg. So 900kilos wouldn't be too far wrong for the rear tyre and wheel combination. (I think it's actually 2000).
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 16:34

Thursday, Feb 27, 2014 at 16:34
1000 per tyre that is!
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Saturday, Mar 01, 2014 at 09:52

Saturday, Mar 01, 2014 at 09:52
Toyota are fairly conservative with their wheel and tyre ratings.

So a 1000kg tyre load rating would be 108.

So what is the load rating on the tyre plackard?

A trailer axle running landcruser hubs and paralell bearings is generally rated as a 2 tonne axle.

Nothing out of the ordinary here.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Mar 01, 2014 at 22:46

Saturday, Mar 01, 2014 at 22:46
200series tyre placard has min load index of 116 = 1250kgs.
The rear axle load rating is 1950kgs.
Trailer manufacturers make life difficult sometimes.
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Reply By: Rustynails59 - Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:54

Friday, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:54
Hi, i am picking up a van this month- drive an LC 200 with 18 inch wheels- 285/60 R18

i am getting same wheels on van for obvious reasons

main issue is getting offset right as many manufacturers didnt know how to do it. not sure about weights- the guy building mine is an engineer so he should know what he is doing
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