ChipIt. Goooone

Yes horses for courses, I wondered why my 105 series was using a bleep eload more fuel when empty than it should and when I went to do the 7 pin mod on the transfer case and pulled out the glovebox, low and behold spliced into the main harness was a chip. I removed it that day and on the way back from the Blue Mtns to Bundaberg with 3500kg(+) on the back and the cruiser loaded to the hilt and with the AC on used 6 litres per hunderd less than comming down empty and ran the same.

Phil G, you hit the nail on the head.

Purchase a vehicle with the power you need and then no chip is needed.

It reads as though they have a sufficient number of warranties claims to shut them down.

Brett....

Certainly makes you wonder. I chipped my previous TD5 Landy as it struggled towing the camper. Must admit I was a tad nervous about it, notwithstanding all the punters who swore by the upgrade.

I'm now comfortable with a bog standard setup and intend keeping it that way. Case in point ....... it's my understanding Mr T only puts the 70 series out in single turbo mode as they are of the opinion the manual transmission can't safely and with longevity handle the power/torque of the twin turbo job in the auto 200 series.

Up the ante and something's gotta give.

Slightly off topic,
The 200 series with the auto, the Transmission Control Module depowers the engine slightly on take off to be gentle on the transmission.

I have never been a fan of chips ( not sure if Chip It was a chip or a control module like Stienbauer ), but may consider a Steinbauer or something similar.

Regards
Angus.

Chipping is a cheap and nasty way of getting more power as they just take fuelling output signals from the main ECU and overfuel the engine to get the power - no account is taken of other aspects of running the engine.

Remapping of the ECU where it can be done is far superior as it modifies all aspects of the ECU ensuring fuel increase signals are matched by changes elsewhere so the process is better managed.

Unfortunately in Aust, chipping seems to be preferred over remapping and many of the issues mentioned above are apparent where there are few side effects with remapping.

Garry

No doubt true Gary

However the net result is the same insomuch as you beef up the engine output considerably, which has to be handled by the drive train.

The gearbox in the TD5 I mentioned above had, as part of its designation "300". This referred to the torque capacity it was designed to handle (300 Nm) which was the output of the bog standard engine. This all begs the question of what will happen in the long term if it's subjected to say 400 Nm (33% increase which seems to be about the norm).

Regardless of which method is adopted I still wonder as to the long term effect.

All this without also considering the ramifications of the resulting higher EGTs.

The gearbox in the TD5 was the R 380 which was designed to take 380nm so not such an issue but your point is something you do have to take into account.

However most cars are not designed at their max capacities drivetrain wise and most can handle a little more. Certainly in other markets the 380 was behind 4.6l petrols with twice the power and a bit more torque than a Td5.

"R380" that's it ............ old timers disease strikes again :o)

I know all about it :-)

I have a chip it in my Challenger..

No probs, but, I also would buy a vehicle that doesn't need a chip.....if I had $80,000 hanging around...

But seeing as I don't, I'll have to put up with what I've got..

Someone mentioned warranty claims ?? I don't read anything like that into anything I've read ? In fact, I've never heard of ANY chip manufacturers having to honor any warranty claims ??