Veevers Crater

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 15:04
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Doing research for trip in a couple of months to WA. I have heard rumours that access to Veevers Crater off the Gary highway is now off limits. Can anyone advise if this is true or not?

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Alan
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Reply By: Mick O - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 15:16

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 15:16
Yes Alan, unfortunately that is correct. Doesn’t stop you applying for access though as permits are still obtainable for the Gary Highway, Jenkins Track Etc.

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Follow Up By: loafer - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 16:12

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 16:12
Thanks Mick,

I didn't think a permit was required for the Gary, would that permit include veevers??

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Follow Up By: Mick O - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 18:50

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 18:50
You're right Alan, I thought a Permit was required for the Gary. It is not however all side access to locations is prohibited.

From the EO permits article

Great Sandy Desert:
Consequent to a number of Native Title Determinations, including the one that resulted in a Permit becoming necessary to travel the Canning Stock Route between Wells 5 and 40, recent decisions on transit permit requests have shown that many previously accessible areas of the Great Sandy Desert are currently not able to be accessed. For example, access to the Warri Site and Ngarinarri Claypan, Veevers Meteorite Crater, Patience Well, the Callawa Route, the Gwenneth and Percival Lakes areas and numerous other native wells, rock holes and soaks is currently not being granted.

Inquiries have been made to the appropriate parties with respect to the Great Sandy Desert, and the moment answers become available, the updated information will be made available to all of those organisations who reproduce this material on their websites.

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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 20:02

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 20:02
We went there 18 months ago and didn't need a permit for Veevers or Gwenneth Lakes.
You've missed nothing if you miss Gwenneth as it was really just a dumping ground for the oil drillers who have carved out a wide road for machinery access. Same could be said for the Kidson Track.
Have a good trip anyway.
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Follow Up By: loafer - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 20:34

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 20:34
Yes I've done it twice before, including veevers crater, and was specifically told then that a permit was not required for the Gary. Must admit I didn't ask about the crate--I just did it anyway.

Mick did you see any signage at the entrance to the track to veevers?.

Last time out there was also told no permit required for the talawana east track, but stopping at the CSR end, there was a new sign saying that a permit is required. Seems like we will need a briefcase full of permits if we want to any amount of travel in that area.


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Reply By: equinox - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 23:18

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 23:18
Hi Alan,

Using the downloadable KMZ files for Google Earth I posted in recent thread 106583 the crater appears to be exempt from Native Title.

Bear in mind though the track to there is covered by native Title.





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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 23:30

Thursday, Mar 20, 2014 at 23:30
Exclusions from the determination area:
1. The following areas, having been excluded from the native title determination application, are excluded from the determination area in accordance with section 61A of the Native Title Act 1993 (Cth) (and section 23C of the Native Title Act 1993 (Cth), and sections 12I and 12J of the Titles (Validation) and Native Title (Effect of Past Acts) Act 1995 (WA)) because they are areas where previous exclusive possession acts have occurred and native title has been completely extinguished in relation to the whole of these areas.

(d) Reserve 41372 for the purpose of "Geological Monument Management" vested pursuant to section 33 of the Land Act 1933 (WA) in the Minister for Mines on 05 February 1993;


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Reply By: Member - Markthemilko - Friday, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:33

Friday, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:33
Hi Allan,
last October we travelled to Veevers Crater (from Perth) via Anne Beadell, Hann track, Connie Sue, GCR, Sandy Blight, Gary Junction, Gary Hwy and Gunbarrel. I obtained the one permit for our trip from:

Theresa Stanley
Receptionist/Permit Officer
Ngaanyatjarra Council
Phone: 89501711
Fax: 89531892
Email: reception@ngaanyatjarra.org.au

Suggest you contact her and if it's ok, she'll provide you with a permit.

Good luck
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Follow Up By: loafer - Friday, Mar 21, 2014 at 17:32

Friday, Mar 21, 2014 at 17:32
Thanks for the tip Markthemilko, being an ex bread vendor , love the name.

I will try her.

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