id ,you show me and i will show you

hi s @ g
Any one from council must have id and introduce them selves and show it, goes for union people also, not a council or union basher either,
just dont be stood over by jogi bear
cheers and kiss them on the cheek or kick them up the #rs$

Stuart,
It's a crock of,
You have a right to see their identification that proves they are able to book you and have some authority. But wether they have drivers licence is irrelevant.

I would say if he hasn't been booked before its for other reasons. Probably with his attitude they back offed.

Alan

Old mate was just spinning BS.

Under the local govt act they are AO's and they will happily show you their ID as they write your infringement notice.

"9.1 Authorised officers

To take action under a Local Law, Council will need to appoint ‘authorised officers’ in accordance with section 224 of the Act.
The formalities of authorisation must be complied with.
9.1.1 Legislative provision

Section 224 of the Act provides:

(1) A Council may appoint any person other than a Councillor to be an authorised officer for the purposes of the administration and enforcement of any Act, regulations or Local Laws which relate to the functions and powers of the Council.

(1A) A Council must maintain a register that shows the names of all people appointed by it to be authorised officers.

(2)The Council must issue an identity card to each authorised officer.

(3) An identity card must –
(a) contain a photograph of the authorised officer
(b) contain the signature of the authorised officer
(c) be signed by a member of Council staff appointed for the purpose.

(3A) If a Council appoints a police officer to be an authorised officer under subsection (1), for the purposes of this section the police officer’s certificate of identity is deemed to be an identity card issued under section 224(2) and is deemed to comply with section 224(3).
9.1.2 Issues

Council must ensure it has authorised officers duly appointed at the time a Local Law comes into operation, or at least prior to Council wishing to undertake any enforcement action.

‘Duly appointed’ includes the formalities of a photographic identity card with signature issued in accordance with the requirements of the Act, unless the authorised officer is a police officer.
9.1.3 Issues – contractors

Particular care needs to be exercised when authorised officers are contractors or employees of contractors. Councils will not necessarily be aware when a contractor’s staff change unless notified by the contractor. Since authorisations are not transferable, one contractor employee cannot simply take over from another. A new authorisation must be issued, the old one cancelled and the identity card recovered."

Or don't camp/sleep where you know you shouldn't.
That way you won't have to ask anyone for ID.

And oldies complain about the arrogance of young kids.........

And to really confuse matters I have been told that Local Government have no powers on there own as they are not constitutionally recognised, but instead are operating basically under the State Legislation with powers deferred to them by State Government. Hence why there was the push with the last referendum to have them recognised under the constitution. The only way for that to happen is the majority of people agree to it...

I'd say just buy a "free camps" book and stay where you are allowed.. And move on! That's what we do, free camps are sequential in the books so it's not hard to plan a few camp options on the day! Michael

While they may have discretion to move you on without a fine, have an attitude like that and you will get booked to the maximum :O

Motherhen

I have been unfortunate enough to have been a police officer in different countries.

We used to have a saying for people who were obnoxious: "Attitude adjusted while you wait" (mainly in the form of one or more tickets for infringements, after all being Dutch there is this old saying that if you want to hit a dog, you can always find a stick :-)

Cheers, Case.

Hi

Not sure a ranger has any obligation to even talk to you. I would have thought it would be as simple as -> take car registration -> a few photographs -> a few notes -> fine is in the mail = thanks for coming.

Cheers
Greg

Good try, but they don't need you to show them your licence if you're in a vehicle with rego plates on it. They have access to your rego info.

The onus is on the registered owner to tell them who was using it at any given time.

If there's no rego plates on it, or they're obscured, they can call the boys/girls in blue & you will likely get a 2nd fine for that too!

Do yourself a favour, stop looking for ways to get away with doing the wrong thing! There are plenty of free camps away from highly populated areas. If you want to camp in touristy areas you may have to lengthen you arms & shorten your pockets! ;)

I think it all depends on the signage.You can park any ware unless there is a sign saying no parking.

What is the definition of camping??
I don't think parking is camping if you are parked and have a nap is this camping??
Sign: with a pic of Tent with a X on it means no camping/setting up camp.Nothing about parking.I think you could park there for 12 hours day or night if you don't set up camp.
If asked to move on I would ask how long can I park here before moving.
I tow a van and have parked and had a sleep in towns, I park have have a look around the town go to the shops fill with fuel go to pub chat with the locals wander back to van have a sleep but I don't set up camp.

Happy travels
Phil.

Wonder what happens after you've stopped and enjoyed a glass or two of red. Are you required to move on even though you may not be fit to drive?...

Cheers

John

If you are asked for ID then they should also produce theirs if asked to do so so you can take down their details if you want to make enquiries that the person is legit. Also unless you pulled up somewhere you really shouldn't have which is likely to put yourself or other people in danger I would tell them to take a hike because you're fatigued and need a rest. With all of the fatigued driver campaigns going on at the moment going against their duty of care to force someone who is tired to continue driving that would really go down well in court.

What exactly is camping, and what exactly is a no camping area?
Fair enough, if the sign says no camping, than its no camping.
I had to pull over on the side of the road a few years back, as I could not physically drive any more. Not unless I can drive while asleep. It did not seem to long after I stopped, and I had a cop knocking on the window, telling me to move on. Can't sleep where I was.
I was well off the road, and not in any danger from other road users.

What happened to stop, revive, survive.

Well mate.......if you continue to take the advice of people like him, you will continue to get booked and probably for more than just that.
If you take the advice of the peanut recommending to kick the rangers arse you will get charged with assaulting a law enforcement officer if your lucky........( I wouldn't like to try that with our ranger)