How accurate are weighbridges
Submitted: Saturday, Apr 12, 2014 at 21:13
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Rustynails59
Hi team,
I recently picked up an off road van and given weight certificate with Tare of 3060kg
The ATM is 3460kg allowing me a 400kg payload
I weighed everything that we put in the van, allowed for water in tanks, allowed for fuel for jerry cans and generator. I reckon I should have been on the mark but when I weighed it I was 3560 kg, 100 kg over
Can't fathom where I went wrong, wondering if it's the weighbridge?
Any thoughts?
Reply By: The Bantam - Saturday, Apr 12, 2014 at 21:52
Saturday, Apr 12, 2014 at 21:52
That "weight certificate"..was that from a weigh
bridge or from the manufacturer.
Was that "certificate" before or after accessories where fitted.
Gas bottles, water tanks full?
Even the choice of wheel and tyre can give a variation of 100Kg if it has 4 road wheels and 2 spares.
If you are using bathroom scales....hell they are more likley to eb dodgy than a weigh
bridge.
cheers
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Reply By: Slow one - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 05:42
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 05:42
Certified weigh bridges are very accurate. They can suffer problems, but these normally show up as fairly substantial differences in readings. Things like the
bridge will not zero itself or will read in the minus.
Things that cause it are the likes of a bad load cell, crook electronic card, wiring or something caught between the weigh frame and the surrounding structure.
As said, weights and measures bring in weights and
test the
bridge for accuracy.
Make sure you weigh everything. On a van that big, water will probably weigh 190 kg and gas 16 kg, so half your payload is gone already.
You may have to shed some weight or relocate it.
On the side, I just pulled 25kg out of my van to get under ATM. I had to transfer some of this weight to the vehicle as the things I pulled out were essentials.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 06:46
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 06:46
Unless the weighbridge ticket delivered with the van was within a day of delivery then it was probably done when it was first towable before any "extras" were fitted and usually a bare van without bedding, soft coverings, gas bottles, spare wheels. Friends were in that exact situation last year, van even packed with the basic necessities was way over weight. The only way to get it back to the supposedly as built tare weight was to remove the mattress, gas bottles, curtains
seat cushions, boot lid, rear bar etc etc.
The manufacturers response was they were all "extra's" even the innerspring mattress as foam was standard and the
seat cushions and curtains etc made up for the fitted awning!
As others have said weighbridges by law have to be accurate especially if they are charging customers like transfer stations etc.
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Reply By: Iza B - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 07:32
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 07:32
As others have said, a certified weighbridge will be quite accurate and the weighbridge operator will be able to tell you to within XX Kilos. Many large weighbridges only weigh in 10 Kg increments.
I suggest your problem is much earlier. What it Tare configuration for your van? Were any customer options added after the tare was obtained? Manufacturers are motivated to tell you the best possible figures and without knowing the tare baseline, totalling in the bits and things you added is pretty vague.
I take it you did not weigh the van on the way
home from the dealers/seller when you first picked it up?
Iza
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 09:48
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 09:48
I work for a company which operates a number of certified weighbridges, that easily weigh in over 50 000T each year and 50 000T out. Quite a large amount of the material we receive has been dispatched from
places with a weighbridge, hence we have a comparison of net weight loaded and unloaded.
These are typically 42 to 80T gross loads(single triaxles semis to double road trains and everything in between)
Differences of 200kg are possible and but are at the extreme end of what we observe in practise despite these weighbridges being certified each year. We don't worry about variances up to 200kg, unless we think it is consistent.
100kg is not unreasonable variance, especially you don't know at what stage of "completion" the manufacturer weighed the van (did it include bedding, the fridge etc).
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Reply By: toffytrailertrash - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:27
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:27
i might suggest that any off road van with a tare of 3000kgs when loaded even lightly for a trip will exceed their 3500kgs max towing for most of the vehicles in Australia except for the American imports of the like of Chev, Ford and Dodge. The weigh
bridge is not out, the vans are just getting too heavy and our tow vehicles are not big enough.
Just another observation is that most of the Kedron, Bushtracker etc vans of around 20' plus that are being towed with a top load boat are far exceeding their max weight capacity.
Cheers
Merv
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Follow Up By: Rustynails59 - Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:36
Sunday, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:36
Agree, have had a GVM upgrade so car GVM has increased from 3300 to 3800
But aware that doesn't alter GCM which in my case is 6850 kg (car and caravan combined)
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