Starting off in High Range with your 4WD.?
Submitted: Friday, Apr 18, 2014 at 17:59
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I've heard a lot of 4by owners whinge about how hard it is to take off in High range, with their vehicle, To me most seem ok under normal conditions, but it takes next to no load to make them struggle on take off if on a
hill or in a bit of soft ground.
My thing is why make them struggle?,..building up revs and slipping the clutch will get them moving but for how long?...LOL.....Low range is there for a reason use it!.
If you know how, changing from low to high is not hard after some practice, ..Eg with landrover when a bit of speed is built up(NO nasty comments here) throw main box into neutral double shuffle low to high, then grab appropriate gear...BUT!! you must be quick, or bits of gear box will be scattered up the road behind you..lol.
Cheers Axle
Reply By: The Bantam - Friday, Apr 18, 2014 at 20:34
Friday, Apr 18, 2014 at 20:34
Shifting from low to high range on the fly, is something I have played with in the hilux.
This sort of thing is just normal in heavy trucks..admittedly it is a bit easier with
the knob mounted range shifts in the modern trucks...but there where trucks in the past that had two sticks..like the macks & diamond rios.
It was driving an R600 with a twin stick box that gave me the idea of trying it in the hilux.....the twin stick in the R600 was easier because it only had a 1 gear underdrive...so low to high picked up the next gear.
the thing with the 4wds is you have to know your gearbox over lap.
In the hilux the transfer case gives you close to a 2 gear under drive..so 1st high range is close to 3rd low.
shifting up is easy and there is no double shuffling required.
proceed in 1st low range, shift like normal to 2nd low range....push down the clutch, shift back to first and push the transfer lever to to high range, clutch up.
Get it timed right and the trasfer will go straight thru......ya don't have to rush, but the shifts need to be reasonably neat
Going back the other way is another story all together....I have not got that one to work
The shifting pattern will work in any gear.....shifting down one gear and from low to high will pick you the next gear.
try it somewhere quiet with a slight uphill slope before you try it loaded.
The trick with using this practically is stratergy..deciding when you will shift from high to low...the message is to do it when it is easiest.
so, you might start off in 1st or 2nd low, it would be quite reasonable to shift normally all the way up to fourth ( same as second high) before you grab high range & third gear.
If you are working some serious hills or in traffic you may not need to shift up to high range till you get some flat ground or some clear flowing road.
I have not found a necessity to use this..but I know it works and I have practiced doing it for when I may need it in the future.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Friday, Apr 18, 2014 at 21:26
Friday, Apr 18, 2014 at 21:26
Hi Bantam,...Glad to hear someone that knows what I'm on about!
The old trucks!, ..Those Joey boxes Especially the four speeders twin stick, ..Gaaawd those screaming GM donks on a big climb in the middle of summer ...had sweat pouring out of ya and the brain trying to sort those cogs out....lol.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Sunday, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:33
Sunday, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:33
I have never driven one of those old quad boxes like found in the S models.....I still shake my head and wonder who came up with that convoluted shift arrangement.
I did read the several pages of explanation on how to drive one....unders and overs for every gear, convoluted arrangements to shift both boxes that where not syncro....and don't EVER get both sticks in neutral.
I recon blokes who realy understood and could actually drive those quad boxes properly where pretty thin on the ground
But I did drive a 5 speed joey box for a short while......they where a dog of a thing, ( give me a road
ranger any day) shifting from forward to reverse was a bit of a juggle, because the forward and reverse ratios where off set by about 3 gears....but they had a couple of advantages.
The 5 reverse gears & that walking spring rear end meant you could back up just about any pile of dirt a machine could push up.
As for the heat.....I have no idea why they put a heater in the R600....there was plenty of heat came thru the floor and the firewall to keep you warm in winter.
But driving one of those gave me the idea of shifting a normal 4wd between ranges while in motion.
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