Fraser Island firewood.

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 15:49
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Going to Fraser on Tuesday but trek notes say firewood you take has to be mill ends not bush wood. Does that mean the bagged wood you buy from bunnings is no good?
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Reply By: chisel - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 16:17

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 16:17
Not certain on the firewood but remember there are no fires allowed on Fraser outside of the dedicated fireplaces at a handful of campsites (Dundubara, Waddy pt top, maybe Cathedrals private campsites).
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 16:45

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 16:45
I'm pretty sure the packaged wood sold by some servos and by Bunnings would be OK. The whole purpose of banning "bush wood", even if you bring it from home, is so that it can be seen by the Ranger to be not possibly bush wood from local gathering. The Bunnings stuff is clearly sawn and retail.

Note what Chisel said re fires only in constructed fireplaces.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kirk L - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 17:01

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 17:01
Yeah that's what I thought al. Just didn't want to go buying wood and not being able to use it. I want to do a roast on my auspit roothy style.
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Reply By: pepper2 - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 17:29

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 17:29
If you are using an aus spit would bagged heat beads be ok as its not an open fire as such.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:16

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:16
I think you would be deluding yourself if you think a heat bead fire wouldn't be regarded as an open fire!

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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 20:35

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 20:35
'Deluding yourself' are strong words.
I always thought (and confirmed at other national parks) that self contained heatbead meals (such as cobb etc) are ok and not classified as open fires.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 22:55

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 22:55
Try it on a Total Fire Ban day!

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:46

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:46
Shaker ,get your facts right because even on a total fire ban day you are allowed to cook your meal as long as it is done in a confined space and container,,,, if not you could not fire up your Gas stove.
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Follow Up By: steamfire01 - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 09:52

Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 09:52
Hi folks
This is a side issue, but quite important if you are in NSW.
During a Total Fire Ban in NSW you cannot use a barbecue / cooking fire using solid fuel, that is wood, coke, coal, heat beads etc in the open air.

Just because you have a partially enclosed device (pig etc) makes no difference, if you are using it in the open air (including under an awning) you are breaking the law, it's that simple.
Quite substantial fines apply and if you were to start a bushfire (even accidentally) that damages property and / or the environment the fines are huge and include gaol if negligence is proved.
You just can't do it no matter what.
Stay safe out there.
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TJ
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Reply By: rumpig - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:04

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:04
I was of the belief that by only using milled timber, it is supposed to stop the introduction of pests and like to the island, not so much about being able to tell where it was sourced from. I really have no idea if the bagged Bunnings stuff and the like is allowed, i would assume not for the reason i stated above, but you're best to try and contact the Rangers there somehow to get a proper answer. If you can't get the Rangers then maybe try ringing somewhere like the people at Dilli Village who allow fires there and see what is allowed, you'd think they'd know.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kirk L - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:21

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 18:21
I suppose milled timber can still have bugs in it. Not sure what the reason is. I'm presuming its so you don't go raping and pillaging the place to get wood. I will try to find out. Nothing's easy is it lol
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 21:44

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 21:44
You may well be right Rumpig. My thoughts above were only an assumption.
I am on Fraser a couple of times each year but have not sought to have a fire.

Kirk, if you find out how about posting it on here so we all learn?
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 21:52

Tuesday, Apr 29, 2014 at 21:52
Just had a look on the NP site and this is what it thad to say:

"Open campfires are prohibited on Fraser Island except in the communal, QPWS-provided fire rings at Dundubara, Waddy Point (top) and Waddy Point (beachfront) camping areas.
No firewood is provided.
If you intend to use one of the fire rings, you must bring clean firewood—not bush wood—such as milled timber off-cuts, and firelighters for ignition, as collecting wood or kindling from the national park is an offence."

So it actually says "clean firewood"-- "SUCH AS milled timber off-cuts" so that surely covers Bunnings type firewood.
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Reply By: Pushy - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 09:25

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 09:25
Read the fine print on the national park website.
I have found that even in parks where open fires are completely banned such as Sundown you can still have fires in braziers.

They ask for milled timber in an attempt to stop diseases like phytophra.
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:58

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:58
You are not allowed fires in Braziers on Fraser, you used to be able to many many years back, but they have changed the rules about what is and isn't allowed several times since then. I used to be able to find a link showing what was required a few years ago, and it stated no braziers on it.
Last time I heard, it was fully enclosed things like an Oz Pig were allowed, but now I have no idea if that's even ok.
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Reply By: philw - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 19:18

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 19:18
Enjoy everything that's left,while you can,before they ban vehicles from the island. It will happen one day,unfortunately.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kirk L - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 19:44

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 19:44
Yeah I know Phil. It's a damn shame the minority usually wreck it for folk like us that do the right thing. Free camps are going prices are going through the roof for caravan parks with bouncy castles and video rooms etc for kids that we don't have. All I need is a piece of grass and a hot shower for 20 bucks a night. Hmmmm!
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 00:14

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 00:14
Went over to Fraser 2 yrs ago and took a ute load of firewood..

BUT, we stayed at Dilli Village.....privately owned, so firewood of any sort can be burned there...except of course if there is a fireban..

Apart from it being further from a few of the attractions, I would stay there again..( especially in winter, when we went, cause it was freezing cold...4 deg of a night...so the fire was a must )
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Reply By: Trevor P4 - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 16:14

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 16:14
Google

"Open fires on Fraser island"

Oh and please don't post statements "like heats beads don't apply on Total Fire Ban days" on FI or anywhere else.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 16:39

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 16:39
http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/camping.html
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Follow Up By: BunderDog - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 18:15

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 18:15
Notice regarding FIRE on Fraser Island

Fire on Fraser Island

Please note that it says FIRE which i would interpret to mean ALL FIRE.
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Reply By: Member - Kirk L - Wednesday, May 14, 2014 at 10:55

Wednesday, May 14, 2014 at 10:55
Well we had 7 nice nights on Fraser. I still have 3 bags full. We stayed at Central
Station so no fires allowed. I couldn't get into waddy as it was full. The wood will get used somewhere. Pretty cold and rainy so didn't even do well fishing but it was great to have a good look around.
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