mars 'vanguard' hard floor camper

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I have had my camper trailer for just over two years, travelling to caravan parks around Victoria. We have also done Mungo N.P to Broken Hill and the Flinders Rangers.
Can anyone advise
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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 22:23

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 22:23
There is a wealth of knowledge on this site, unfortunately no one here mind reads.
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Reply By: my4x4 - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 22:28

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 22:28
what I am wanting to know. If this type of camper, which is classed as semi-off road, can handle being on some of Australia's Outback roads?
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:56

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:56
It could certainly handle some of Australia's Outback roads, but possibly not all!
Maybe if you are a little more specific as to which tracks you would like to tackle, you may get some good advice.

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Follow Up By: my4x4 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:32

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:32
we are thinking out next trip would be from Broken Hill to Cameron Corner. I cant understand how other people have not travelled with this type of Camper. We cant all afford a t-van or Ultimate?
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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 07:56

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 07:56
I knew a guy that had one of these campers, dust came in everywhere, he siliconed up all joints and gaps which worked. He moved the water pump as it was located in a vulnerable position under the trailer. He added a stone guard to the water tank.
Like any thing, if your going to remote places have the camper drive line fully checked by a mechanic before heading off.
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Follow Up By: Crusier 91 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:10

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:10
Having said the above, he didnt really take the camper on corrugated dirt roads. If you do, dont forget to low tyre pressures.
Feed back on your camper once you've completed your trip would be great. I have also so kept an eye on these campers but have not made the purchase yet as there is no one with feed back that has done a off-road trip in one yet.
All the best.
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Reply By: my4x4 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:36

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:36
Shaker. I am new to this forum. Appreciate your comments.
we are thinking out next trip would be from Broken Hill to Cameron Corner. I cant understand how other people have not travelled with this type of Camper. We cant all afford a t-van or Ultimate?
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Reply By: my4x4 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:29

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:29
Is there anyone out there touring our great country who owns something other than a tvan or ultimate? (45k)
Surely someone can give us ALL a little advise on how to set up a cheaper Camper Trailer and if this type of Camper can be taken offroad?



















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Reply By: Member - Granty55 - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 00:04

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 00:04
G’day 4x4, have left my reply for a while, hoping you might get a reply from somebody who owns the same sort of camper as yours. It seems as yet you have had no luck. So all I can suggest, that may help, if you want to give the trip a go, is to relate my experience of building up a camper from a fairly run down hilux ute tub trailer. (Couldn’t afford an expensive camper, and to build one up was a bit of a challenge!) Our first try out was a bit ambitious tackling the Birdsville, Oodnadatta tracks and Great Central Road. I made sure as Cruiser 91 said that anything vulnerable that I mounted under the trailer (water tanks, pump, hoses, wiring) was well protected as I was amazed at the amount of stone hits and sandblasting that occurred.
Climb under your trailer and have a good look at the way the suspension is mounted, (welded or bolted), how the water tank is mounted, or how anything else is attached. If you think anything looks a bit suspect or weak strengthen it before you go. Dust will be a problem we bought a large canvas “bedding bag” to keep our bedding dust free and dry, and was a good investment. The corrugations will be your main enemy so make sure you climb under your trailer regularly to check that nothing has vibrated loose, or has broken. (one set of u bolts worked loose and we broke a shocker) My main concern was that I wasn’t sure of the quality of the welding that attached the A frame to the remainder of the hilux chassis under the tub, so I checked the welds everytime we pulled up. Fortunately the welding has held even after 20 000 k’s of mainly off road travel and we are really happy with our camper, it may not look pretty but it does the job!.
So I guess what I am saying is that until you are confident that your trailer will handle the job vigilance is the key, keep an eye on welds, mountings, light fittings, wheel bearings, tyres etc, even then a daily once over always pays!
If you don’t get any other replies, there is only one way to find out, have a go anyway, try it out, lower your tyre pressures on the rough stuff and just take it easy, and above all enjoy the journey!
Good luck, Ron
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Follow Up By: my4x4 - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 20:27

Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 20:27
Ron, at this point in time, since having my "cheaper" Camper Trailer, I have siliconed all the joints underneath. Have put a stainless steel cover over the water pump and made up some rubber stone guards that hang between the original stone guard and the road. What you have said about doing some general maintenance at the end of each day is a good idea. I have also thought about taking some spare parts.
Maybe the only way to find out if suitable for off road. as you have said is HAVE A GO!
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Follow Up By: Member - Granty55 - Monday, May 05, 2014 at 15:41

Monday, May 05, 2014 at 15:41
Just another thought, if you have the time, why not try a shorter trip as a trial, find some rough stuff near your home, pack up the camper as you would for your big trip, and try it out. You will get an idea how the camper handles, keep an eye in your mirrors for any vibrations in the add ons, Jerry can/gas bottle holders etc. They're the things that may give you trouble. As far as your trailer's suspension goes only the big trip will test that out. Keep an eye on your springs, spring mounting points, shockers, axle and bearings. Go over all the nuts and bolts to ensure they are tight and haven't worked loose. It may sound a bit like overkill, but until your feel confident that the trailer will handle the job. It may give you some peace of mind.
Good Luck
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 10:07

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 10:07
I know nothing about the brand of camper trailer you have so I cannot comment on it.

I had a cheaper supposedly off-road camper trailer that I bought second hand. The springs cracked away from the chassis on corrugated roads near Dalhousie Springs. I had it welded at Alice Springs and the advice I got there was that they had repaired Kimberley Kampers, etc. That even the most rugged trailers will eventually crack on the corrugations.

I have upgraded to a Cameron Camper which is a lot stronger construction than my previous camper. It is so easy to erect that a child can do it solo. It is a lot cheaper than a T-van but still expensive in comparison to the cheap campers.

I have read here advice to lower your tyre pressures. That advice is spot on as that will allow the tyres to absorb a lot of the punishment.

Another thing is the faster you go the more stress you put on your trailer and vehicle, especially on corrugations. I have seen people travelling at 100 km/h or more on corrugated roads towing a camper trailer. The camper trailer has been bouncing all over the place behind them. I know a person who tows a standard caravan through the Pilbara and Kimberley without any problems because he goes at a reasonable pace.
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Follow Up By: my4x4 - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 20:36

Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 20:36
What I are hoping is that no matter what the cost of your Camper ie.5k or 45k if you have the correct tyre pressures and drive the vehicle to suit the conditions of the road we should do ok.
I have watched a few 4x4 shows that talk about tyre pressures but they don't actually tell you what they should be? Does anyone know the tyre pressures for - sand, corrugated roads, rocky roads and do they change if you go through water?
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Tuesday, May 06, 2014 at 15:49

Tuesday, May 06, 2014 at 15:49
Tyre pressures, generally same as vehicle tyres are deflated to.
General pressures WITH touring load (normal road pressures in town / trips not loaded too much, etc = 36).

What I use below as a general rule . . . others may vary in their choices of course.

Off the blacktop as soon as I'm on dirt / gravel for a long stretch = 30
Ruts / mild corros = 25
Track work with loose rock etc = 25
Bad corros = try 22
Sand = 10 to 18 (have let em down to 8 before a few times too, and have seen some run flat to get off bad beaches)

You should watch cornering at low pressures, say under 24 for touring speeds with load, keep it to 80 in those cases in any case too perhaps.
Rolling tyres happens often, esp on beaches.

I usually go 4WDH off blacktop, provided it's not hard packed clay etc, has to be some loose stuff for slippage of drive wheels.

You also might want to consider adjustable shocks for your trailer and / or vehicle too, taking my Rancho 9000's down to say setting 2 or 3 (out of 9) makes corros a lot easier to handle, but mostly you just have to find the right speed to reduce to effect . . . not recommending it unless very alert to crests etc, but sometimes corros are better on the right side of the track !!
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Reply By: Member - wicket - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 10:30

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 10:30
Suggest you head over to my swag here as it is devoted to camper trailers and you might even find someone that owns your model
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