Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 22:30
Hi Mik.
I have a '92 Troopie and I have gone down the path of auto front locker (Detroit Soft Locker) and now a LSD (Detroit Tru Track).
Changing over to a LSD is the best thing that I ever did. I had no-end of trouble with the auto locker.
In W.A. we have a hell of a lot of loose sand, especially on our beaches, and that was the problem. I wont go too deeply into it as I have, in the past posted very in-depth article on the matter on this
forum.
Suffice to say, and in a nut
shell. When I stopped in loose sand in 4WD and the moved off (tyres were deflated at the time), instead of the wheels walking out, they both spun in and went straight down.
Point 2, invariably, when leaving the beach, you have to go up a
sand dune and make a sharp left or right turn at the top to follow the track.
I didn't, I went straight on because the axle would not dis-engage. If I took my foot off the pedal to allow the auto locker to unlock, I stalled because I lost momentum in the loose sand.
Point 3. When following other vehicles along the beach and in their tracks (or trying to) the truck always wanted to go straight ahead and not follow the weaving tracks of the truck in front, hence the old girls was all over the place, very difficult to handle.
Now come the worst!
When I tried to turn in the loose sand, both wheels would turn as the same speed resulting in one wheel steering O.K. but the other bulldozing up a huge mound of sand in front of it and most of the time, again, stalling or bogging me.
They same problems relating to steering occurred when driving in mud.
(If I was doing
rock climbing under dry conditions, I could climb up a brick wall).
After putting up with this for 22 months I bit the bullet and complained to Detroit.
In all praise to Detroit Australia (I am sorry I can not recall the name they trade under) they came to the party without any quibbles and swapped my front diff over for a very minimal cost to their Tru Track LSD.
I could not be happier with the LSD, Detroit, or my Troopie.
The difference that I noticed in traction loss was next to nothing and more than adequately compensated by complete control of my vehicle.
Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:33
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:33
Hi Janset,
I had a Lockright Auto lokka in the front of my previous standard 80 series. I only had praise for the lokka and did not experience any of the problems you had.
In particular, I found it performed very
well in sand by allowing accurate steering. I could follow in others tracks, or steer easily out of them, something i could not easily do before the locker.
My lokka easily unlocked on high traction surfaces or muddy slippery tracks. For whatever reason, it sounds like your lokka was reluctant to unlock. This would make its steering performance very difficult and I can understand your dislike of the unit. However, your experience may not be the norm.
Based on my experience i would still recommend a front auto lokka on a part-time 4WD (I plan to install one on my GU once the warranty is up).
Cheers
MarkNissan 2003 GU 3.0TD
Windsor Rapid Offroad
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Follow Up By: Dave from Fraser Coast 4WD Club - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:49
Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:49
Lock rights front and rear on my troopy. Seem to spend half my life on Fraser,
Rainbow and Kinkuna, never experienced your problems Janset.
In fact I would assert that the lokkas have allowed me to keep pulling thru the softest sand, rather than a slight difference in grip conditions allowing one wheel to dig me in.
Everyone has their own experience, yours was bad,
mine has been good!
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan - Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004 at 00:37
Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004 at 00:37
Janset, I had a auto lokka in the front of my previous 80 series and it preformed really
well in sand or mud. No complaints at all and steering was only slightly affected with hubs engaged. The problems you describe would also be applicable with the air locker which positively locks the diff and I don't hear many people throwing them out to improve steering characteristics.Cheers
Allan
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