moved from n. patrol to toyota prado differences in 4x4 techniques?

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We have finally gotten rid of the N. Patrol and now have a new Prado GXL Diesel. Has anyone done this transition and if so what alternative driving techniques should we be aware of in tight situations. Knew the Patrol's capabilities well.
Thanks Noels and Pete
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Reply By: olcoolone - Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 20:13

Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 20:13
I don't see why there would be a difference in driving techniques between the two...... If you think the Prado requires a different technique maybe it's time you took an advanced driving course or even a general driving course would help you.
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Follow Up By: Mogul - Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 21:27

Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 21:27
Just about every vehicle will require a slightly different technique whether being driven on road or off.
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Follow Up By: Member Kerry W (WA) - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:08

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:08
In "tight" situations there are quite a few differences in capability and traction they may notice. Mainly due to the differences in front axle/suspension/travel set up, ground clearance and performance of the rear LSD not to mention learning how to get the best results from the prados traction control.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:01

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:01
I didn't know there were so many bad drivers who find it hard to adapt to similar vehicles.

"Just about every vehicle will require a slightly different technique whether being driven on road or off."

LOL ROLF..... this is called learning and most of us do it naturally with out even thinking about it.

The way you guys are talking it sound very stressful and he may be better of sticking to his Nissan.

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Reply By: Ross M - Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 20:33

Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 20:33
Maybe no "ten" needed in oz. Just "got" rid of it is Australian speak and see the transition to Amerispeak is just not Aussie.
Sorry, but see and hear it everywhere now.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 21:25

Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 21:25
Please explain!
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 22:43

Sunday, Jun 15, 2014 at 22:43
Maybe need a new foil liner in the helmet. The voices...the voices...the voices........
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:39

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:39
I think if my very English ex newspaper editor mother were around to read this drivel she'd have gotten up and put you back in your box quick smart. Just because you can't speak doesn't mean you need to drag others down to your level. This has gotten sad; I must away.
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Follow Up By: noelene/peter b - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:28

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:28
Thank you all for your input re re my English, I may need to hand back my PhD...though as I understand it 'common usage becomes the rule' . The Macquarie dictionary cites 'gotten' a the past participle of get. I wish our question had got the same response but thanks to the respondents anyway.
Noels
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:38

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:38
Silly old farts with nothing better to do at action again - Noels don't worry about it.
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Follow Up By: Mick T3 - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 13:04

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 13:04
At least no one has begun their sentences with the word "Look". Or answered questions with the word, "Absolutely". Or referred to anyone as "buddy".

My editor added 1100 commas to a manuscript. Then her husband tried to bite me.

I'm starting to panic.
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Reply By: andoland - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:39

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:39
I've never owner a Patrol but I do have a current model diesel Prado. Before that I had a 90 series Prado which, like the Patrol (I think), had a gearstick for high/low range and 2wd/4wd. This meant that you could change from high to low range and vice versa and from 2wd to 4wd and vice versa on the fly.

On the current Prado's high/low range and 2wd/4wd selection is made by turning a switch and you can't do the high/low range change on the fly. You have to be completely stopped (not even slightly rolling) and have the clutch all the way in or low range will not engage (or disengage going the other way). So you have to think ahead and can't decide to change at the last minute.

The Prado also has traction control and stability control (not sure if the Patrol has these but I don't think it does) and you need to switch both these off when driving on sand otherwise they activate when you don't want them and can get you stuck.

These are the two main differences I can think of.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:46

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:46
Isn't the Prado 90 & 120 constant 4wd which can be shifted to H locked or L locked?
I find mine very annoying that I can't be unlocked in low range.

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Follow Up By: andoland - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:51

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:51
Shaker, yes I see what you're saying - my comment about switching from 2wd to 4wd above is not quite right - I was thinking locking/unlocking the centre diff but wrote 2wd/4wd. The 90 series are constant 4wd but you could not select low range without locking the centre diff. The choices were H2 (centre diff unlocked) H4 (centre diff locked) and L4 (centre diff locked). Like you I used to find it irritating that I couldnt have low range without the centre diff locked when I wanted to reverse by boat up my driveway.

The 150 series allows you to select low range on the dial without locking the centre diff via a separate button.
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Reply By: Old 55 - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:32

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:32
Know the feeling as I recently changed from an 80 series LC to an auto VX Prado. Suspension travel is the big difference but even with the wheels off the ground the traction control keeps you going forward. Mine has a diff lock in the rear and this works well on loose stuff and rocky terrain. Don't really use the downhill descent, noisy and slow but it sure works the few times I have used it.
You will find the Prado more maneuverable and very capable off road and I love the auto in the bush but, they are not as strong as the Patrol or 80 series so treat it a little more gently and enjoy the experience.

Cheers Rod
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Reply By: brushmarx - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 13:56

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 13:56
From my experience, the driver change from a Nissan product to a Toyota product is more of a mental issue towards other drivers.
It seems like you need to change your friendly smile and wave of a couple of fingers to oncoming vehicles to a sneer and one reversed middle finger, and you don't need to use indicators changing lanes in cities, but this is only based on experience around the Southern suburbs of Brisbane while commuting.
Other than that I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from the Prado, they look like a nice usable bit of kit.
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Follow Up By: schoee - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:47

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 15:47
Could not agree more !!
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Reply By: Member - Terry W4 - Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 17:31

Monday, Jun 16, 2014 at 17:31
Suspect it will also depend on whether you are moving from manual to auto.

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Reply By: Member - Dough Boy - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:30

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:30
I recently parted company with a 3 ltr Patrol into a 76 series Cruiser wagon
Huge difference !
Otherwise known as POWER !
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DB
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