Iveco 4x4

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:08
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Hi guys,

Anyone had any extended experience with this vehicle. Reliability issues, off road ability, parts availability, warranties.
Just considering the options for a replacement for the trusty but aging Cruiser. Maybe even one of those Iveco based expedition camper types so that I don't have to tow.

Thanks for any help

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Reply By: Paps - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:17

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:17
Not specifically, but I saw one recently, a dual cab tray with a "Travelander" camper on the back and it was huge. Massive ground clearance. You have to climb up a step to get in/out. Would not be any good in the Vic Alps but a great outback traveller I would have thought. I'm not sure I'd be swapping it for my GU and Piggyback. Unfortunately I can't upload the photo.
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Reply By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:27

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:27
Pop - Not enough in service yet to make a call on them, I reckon. I have no specific experience with them, but to me they look too light in the engine dept.

3 litres, cast iron block, alloy head, twin turbo, intercooled, with EGR and particulate filter - all say short life and expensive maintenance, to me.
The general impression is, they have lots of gears to make up for lack of grunt in the horse .. err, pony .. dept.

All European design vehicles I have used/encountered are electronically complex, and don't do well in outback conditions.
The interior finish on the Iveco is reported as "commercial" and receives faint praise.

I can tell you from previous Iveco experience, you'll need a large jar of Vaseline and regular bending over, any time you pay a visit to the Iveco parts department.
How about $1000 for an alloy thermostat cover water outlet, on the head of an Iveco 6cyl motor?? (insert crying icon here). Yes, a piece of alloy pipe casting about 150mm long.

Some wag has mentioned they cost half as much as a MOG, so they should be good for half the life, and half the performance! LOL
Leaf springs all round as compared to coils on the MOG. Straight axles as compared to the reduction axles with offset drive design on the MOG, that aid in ground clearance.
Those axle housings on the Iveco look like they need strapping to me.

The Iveco appears to have exceptionally good ground clearance, but I reckon it's at the expense of a high C of G.

"Travel Trucks" are pushing them, along with body variations - and TT are also producing and selling a bigger off road rim and tyre for the Iveco, pointing out that the standard Michelins on the Iveco are strictly speed limited to 100kmh.
Lots of info on them here, but no feedback from satisfied owners, which is the thing we're all looking for!

Travel Trucks website

Previous thread discusses them, but dissolves into Mercedes argument: Iveco Daily 4x4
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:07

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:07
Ron,
Put an email query in to TravelTrucks. The guy rang me back within 1/2 hr so good response.
He gave me all the good points about their camper build and also about the Iveco.
Then he gave me the price plus on road.
The basic unit $201,000. (Insert goggle eyed emoticon)
After I thanked him for his prompt response and got my hyper ventilating under control I did a comparison to buying a new off road van, Bushtracker, Kedron, Trackmaster, etc etc and something capable of dragging one around, 200 Cruiser, Patrol V8 petrol, and all those US mega rides you would be looking at not getting much change out of $250,000. So price wise comparable. BUT. Different styles and probably not an apples 2 apples comparo.
As for a Mog. Sorry not into mountaineering. You seen how high them babies are off the ground. Even with my aging bones I could do the limbo under one without getting oil on my shirt front.
I agree not enough on the road and off as far as the Iveco goes hence my inquiry.

Thanks
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Follow Up By: DiscoTourer - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 00:52

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 00:52
"All European design vehicles I have used/encountered are electronically complex, and don't do well in outback conditions"

After I picked myself up off the floor....I started to wonder, Does the 200 series not have a number of computers....are they not electronically complex. Have only seen a couple of these on trips that have had issues....no more than any others.

Quite funny really.

Brett...
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:06

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:06
Disco, there's a big difference between how the Japs build their electrics and electronics - and how the Europeans build their electrics and electronics.

The Japs take more care with their design in the protection of circuits, connectors, wiring, and location of crucial electrical components.

Regardless - after 250,000kms of dirt roads and deep water, I'll put my non-electronic vehicle into the toughest conditions, long before I'd put a fully electronic vehicle with the same kms, into those same conditions.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Member - mike g2 - Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 01:26

Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 01:26
Interesting reading all this about Iveco and mogs etc.. have had problems with Fiat Ducato myself. drove some mogs (Uni) in Army, seriously capable bit of kit. had several gears ,4x4, synchro- auto fwd/ reverse gearbox , drive chain linked front winch etc..
seen one out get of a bit of a bog using fwd/rev capacity .
anyhow...I note the problem of expensive ( or rare) parts, friend of mine made a mould copy of a part and then built his own working replica, using plaster initially, then resin. as for making metal ones, I've seen the portable melt-welders used for steel railway work repair- maybe convert to Aluminium or am I being too hopeful with a forge or similar? a few hrs in local scrap car yard could lead to an equivalent part when described as a 'piece of alloy pipe casting' ? worth a try at $1000 ea to buy. I would even have a go in my man cave (shed) for 1/2 that.
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Reply By: Slow one - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:54

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:54
Pop,
have a look here and maybe bookmark the site for future feed back.

Daily 4x4 forum
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:08

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:08
Done, thanks mate.
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:56

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 13:56
There is a bloke on another forum that has had one for quite a while and is very happy with it, built his own rear body too. See here http://www.goingbush.com/iveco.html
Apparently about the only thing that is Iveco is the actual cab, they are made by a German/Austrian company which makes military vehicles and the word is that the drivetrain is very well sorted and very capable off road.
Alan whiting also gave them a good rap on his website too.
Priced competitively too compared to a cruiser/patrol and you get a proper truck rated to carry/tow the load that most wish to take on outback trips.
ATW is also making a motorhome body on them as well.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:17

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:17
Peter,

Thanks mate, yeah read a bit about how the latest 4WD offering, generation 5, is based on a supposedly military spec chassis. I thought they said something about being built in Italy with I think Carraro (spelling?) axles. ZF 6 speed gearbox and I think a Fiat engine (shudder). Then Iveco mate their cab and electronics to the chassis electronics. I must admit that sounded like a disaster in the making.
Their specs re towing, carrying off road ability, do sound impressive but I am getting the feeling a bloke may be better off waiting a while to see how all that marries up in Australian conditions.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:39

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:39
Pop - IVECO is a company, that if it was a woman, it'd be well known as the town whore.
Iveco has hopped into bed with every 2nd company in Europe. It's mind-boggling trying to follow the history of the company.

Iveco was originally formed as a merger of 5 companies - Fiat Industrial Vehicles, Lancia Industrial Vehicles, the Italian OM company, UNIC of France, and Magirus-Deutz (the German truck and fire-engine builder that utilised air-cooled Deutz engines).
IVECO was always owned and controlled by Fiat Industrial S.p.A.

In 1986, IVECO merged with Ford of Europe's truck division - and the Ford truck factories started producing IVECO trucks, as well as the declining Ford truck range, such as the Ford Cargo.

Meantimes, in 1986, Ford bought New Holland (the ag manufacturer) and formed Ford New Holland. In 1991, Fiat bought 80% of FNH, then later on, moved to 100% ownership. It then became Fiat New Holland.
In 1992, IVECO purchased International Harvester of Australia. The new company was first known as ITAL (International Trucks Aust Ltd), but it was later changed to IVECO Aust.
In 1999, Case and FNH merged to form CNH Global N.V. (which merged company was still majority-owned by Fiat Industrial S.p.A.).

In 2010 Fiat announced that CNH, Iveco and Fiat Powertrain Industrial & Marine will be separated from the auto business, and listed in Milan stock exchange as Fiat Industrial.
In 2011, CNH becomes 100% owned by Fiat Industrial. In 2013, CNH merges with parent company Fiat Industrial S.p.A, forming the new CNH Industrial N.V.

I hope I haven't lost you yet. LOL

Meantimes, going back to the Iveco Daily, this truck was originally the Fiat 616N.
It was rebranded the Iveco Daily in 1978, after the IVECO takeover of Fiat Industrial Vehicles, and has gone through 4 generations of model re-design.

The Iveco Daily 4x4 is a specially-built Daily, built under order from Iveco, by an Italian company by the name of SCAM S.p.A. (good name, eh?? try searching Google for SCAM - LOL).

The SCAM company specialises in specialty Off-Road, Armoured and other tactical vehicles.
The SCAM company gets the cabs and chassis (complete with engine) from Iveco and builds the Daily 4x4 by installing a whole new driveline, adding a transfer case and using Carraro axles (the Italian Antonio Carraro, has been a tractor builder and specialist engineering supplier for many years).
It appears the transfer case is built and supplied by SCAM. It's probably built in another Italian companies factory, and supplied to SCAM's order.

The fully completed Daily 4x4 is then rolled out of the SCAM factory (jeez, I love that name! - LOL), and is then shipped to the Iveco dealers for sale.

Here's some interesting links with lots of info:

Iveco Daily - Wikipedia

Antonio Carraro

Carraro Drivetech (axle specs on this page)

SCAM trucks

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 20:05

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 20:05
While I did manage to follow you to what appeared to be the inevitable, I must admit my eyes did start to glaze over slightly somewhere between International trucks and the Scam someone was trying on.

Looks like the jury may still be out on this one and my old girl (the ute..lol) is still doing it's duty so I think I may wait until a more definite verdict is reached.

Thanks for the time and info. I honestly couldn't have had the patience to follow the genealogy of a bush rabbit which seems to bear a striking resemblance to the vehicle in question.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 20:41

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 20:41
Yep, trying to follow the corporate shenanigans melts your brain.
The simple fact is the Iveco Daily largely has Fiat origins and input into the design.
The engine is Iveco design, but it uses a lot of Fiat technology.

I've been chatting to some Poms, they have a lot of the 2WD Dailies - they reckon the heads crack regularly once they get well up in kms.
Clutches regularly give trouble (could be a result of a lot of Pommy stop-start driving - but that equates with off-road, anyway).

One bloke says the Daily 4X4 rear drum brakes tend to overheat with hard work, and he can't understand why they didn't use rear discs - they're available from Carraro.

The fuel injection pumps on the Iveco engine are definitely a trouble area, once the kms pile up.
And of course, they all reckon the electrics are a right PIA. Way too many circuits, circuit breakers, connectors and sensors, that are a prime cause of stoppages when a few years old.

As a Swiss mate says - they always sold Fiats as soon as the warranty ran out! LOL
Another mate says you always pushed your Ducati home - until they went over to Japanese electrics.
Then you knew you were going to get home. LOL

Me - I'd go for an Isuzu or Fuso 4WD truck over the Daily, anytime. But we all choose what suits us, and wear the choices.

This bloke has some nice little truck-type rigs. Hate to think what they cost, though.

Earthcruiser

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Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:09

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:09
A bit more research finds that the original Iveco engines (2.5L and 2.8L) were built by SOFIM - Societa Franco Italiana Motori - which was originally a joint diesel engine enterprise between Fiat, Saviem (Renault) and Alfa Romeo. SOFIM was established in 1974 and was bought by Iveco in 1981. These engines were built from 1978-2006.

However, the newest 3.0L common rail Iveco engine (2006-on) is called the JTD engine, and this stands for uniJet Turbo Diesel.

The JTD engine is strictly a Fiat design engine, although some of the smaller displacement JTD engines came from the failed Fiat-GM merger - and GM retained the rights to a couple of the smaller JTD engines when they left the joint venture.

The 2nd generation JTD engine in the Daily is called the Multijet or Multijet Power.
The 3.0L Multijet is used in the Fiat Ducato van, the Iveco Daily, and the Iveco Massif.

The Massif was a Spanish-built heavily-modified copy of the Landrover Defender, built by the Andulusian company Santana.
However, the Santana company closed down in 2011 due to poor sales, and a decision by Iveco to end the joint venture agreement with Santana.

SOFIM engines

JTD engine
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Reply By: Darryl E - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 15:20

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 15:20
Hi pop

I own a 2wd version 35C-14, so can give you some idea of engine and body. It is a big truck like thing, great big chassis, big long spring etc, not an overgrown car, with that it has some weight but surprising torque and in 2wd form its turning circle will beat most dual cabs easily.
My engine is the 2.3litre with variable turbo - and it scoots along even with a 1.5 tonne trailer/car following. I chose the 5 speed manual and it has been fine - a bit slow and agricultural (ie truck like) in changes but solid. With my small car on the trailer (say 1.2tonne together) i can make it up cunningham's Gap -(Brisbane to Warwick) in top(4th not 5th). in tow mode it gets about 9km/litre. The space inside is massive but spartan. The seat in mine is an Isky mechanical - but i am thinking of replacing with a air suspension sort - common frame so a couple to choose from. They are fairly particular about their oil - and although rated for super long change periods i change oil and filter every 10k. They can be a bit dicky with electrics - warning lights and fuses everywhere . It seems twin stage fuel pumps are a common problem - injector lights come on if low pressure. As a tow beast, i could see this vehicle blossom - as a 4wd - not so sure? the extra weight, harder to find tyres/parts etc could be a stumbling block- also they are high vehicles - mine near on 2.6metres ( without 4wd) - so no drive throughs, no inside car parks at most shopping centres. This one is just under 7 metres long - can and does fit into a parking bay and can be driven on standard car licence. Cheers Darryl
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:25

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 17:25
Darryl,

Thanks for your candid warts and all appraisal. I am lead to believe the 4WD is a fairly different beast to the 2WD at least in it's latest incarnation. It does sound like the electronics could be a bit tricky both in reliability and getting someone to even tackle them if something went wrong well away from a capital city. As you probably know the Ozzy bush can bring out the worst in vehicles that aren't built to suit.
On paper their specs seem quite good but that don't mean squat when it stops miles from nowhere.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:19

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 01:19
Darryl, I'm a little puzzled by your statement about the "2.3 litre" engine.

Is that a typo? According to all my info, the Turbo Daily 35C-14 used the 2.5L engine up until year 2000 - then the 2.8L diesel from 2000-2006 - then the 3.0L engine from 2006 to the current model.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Darryl E - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:03

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:03
Hi Ron

My van isn't outside atm( lives elsewhere
).... maybe it is a 35c-12? (sorry if i got that wrong) mine is a late 2005 plate but runs 2006 engine etc.

It is definately a 2.3litre HPT .. i used to have a lot of trouble getting matches for my vehicle, when searching using the 2005 data... i went into an iveco dealer who told me to use 2006 for engine purposes.
Again sometimes hard to find which one, because a couple came out with the same volume, my engine is the 136kw? one not the lower powered one. ( i am not sure if it is JDT or multijet.... i know it is the variable turbo (HighPower Turbo) Hope that helps
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:20

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:20
Darryl - You're correct - you have the models right, the 35C-14 - and the newest generation engine JDT engine, which comes in 2 capacities - 2.3L and 3.0L.
My info didn't mention the 2.3L is a current engine.

The Iveco page talks HP, which surprises me, I thought they only talked Kw.
Perhaps the webpage is aimed at the U.S. market, although it's a Norwegian webpage.
They state the 2.3L comes in 96, 116 and 136HP versions.
This engine appears to be only fitted to the 2WD Daily - while the 4WD Daily gets only the 3.0L engine.

Iveco Daily Euro 4 engines

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 18:17

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 18:17
I own one, and a v8 cruiser ute. $88000 inc gst for cab chassis. About $54000 for a very serious fitout (Traveltrucks, Brisbane). I have set it up as a tow rig for a 20ft Bushtracker. 15000 klms, couldn't be happier. But its not everyones cup of tea. Very high, a long way to fall. I can tow all day at 100klms, and still have enough to pass. But its typical 4 cylinder, nothing like the sruiser.

I ran out of gvm with the cruiser, overloaded pretty much when totally empty.

These trucks are unbelievably specced, 6 speeds, 4 ranges, 3 difflocks, ABS, it goes on. But 4.5 tons bogged is 4.5 tons that you have to get out. Nothing beats a lightweight for sheer 4wd ability, weight is a killer.
warranty, costs to date have been no problems, who knows what the future holds? So far, its been very reliable, and very capable. It would walk right over the top of the cruiser for 4wd ability in dry, rough, steep, towing, winching etc, but it will be a sad day the first time I bog it ha ha
Evaluate it yourself, blogs like this can return some very differing opinions. Me, I love it, and I love my cruiser, for different reasons
As far as a Mog, I went down that road, $500,000 for a basic camper????? ha
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:14

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:14
G,day Jim,

Nice to hear from someone that has owned and used one for what it was intended for.
While my old Cruiser ute doesn't have the grunt of the V8 the 1HD-FT manages to haul it's overloaded self and a van around. It even manages to go most places I am dumb enough to point it and reasonably expect a wheeled vehicle to go.
The Iveco does seem to be a somewhat different beast but as I age so am I...lol.
Debogging rarely is an enjoyable way to spend a couple of hours. Getting stuck in the chocolate pudding that lurks beneath the crust of Lake Disappointment was not an episode that I look back on fondly.
It sounds like you are a pretty happy owner so far but if I may be so rude 15,000 k's to me is still the first blush of marital happiness.
I do most sincerely appreciate your input but I think I may wait a little longer before taking the plunge. Having said that the concept of the Iveco still interests me.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 14:47

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 14:47
on the matter of getting bogged.....big wheels and lots of ground clearance...and some weight... count for a hell of a lot.

remember there are two major factors to getting bogged...loss of traction and loss of momentum......more weight means more momentum...and more traction.

A while beck I drove a heavy tipper fore a while..one of the regular jobs was carting mud and driving on mud.....this was a more or less typical tipper with duals on both axles in the rear and no drive in the front...in this case a tourque splitter lock but no diff lock .....we drove over stuff that a light commercial bassed 4wds would not have a hope of getting over.

while the weight will be a big issue once actually bogged its not always a disadventage while still moving.

but the problem remains..as it does with any more capable vehicle......if you have a very capable vehicle...who is going to recover you.

I met a bloke with a Pensgower ( spelling who knows)..a 6 wheel drive military thing....rediculously capable......he commented that he was not inclined to push his luck....because if he needed recovering, most other 4wds would not be able to get near it.

the solution in somthing that big is...don't get bogged...:)

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Follow Up By: Member - Jim B8 - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 15:10

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 15:10
Ah yes, no truer words. Avoid at all costs. I have a dual motor winch, 17000 pound pull, and a 8 ton pulley, so I can pull at 340000 pounds. I have used it to pull the truck up a very steep (steep enough to slide down backwards for 50 meters) wet grassy hill, so I know it works. I am equipped as I can be, now it relates to avoidance ha ha
I have 12 inch x 37 dia tyres, with reduced pressure I am hoping they will also help.
But I am a realist, they all go down at some time, and it will be a bad day. Reckon I might crack a beer or 2, camp the night, and face it the next day?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 17:58

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 17:58
Big tyres and plenty of clearance don't count for sh*t if you drive in the wrong place.



Bloke on the right bogged it, and the fellar on the left wasn't smiling after two days digging :-) Pulled it out on the 3rd day, with a grader.

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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:08

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:08
don't drive in the wrong place. cheers
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:42

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:42
Bantam,
sorry but you don't seem to have much experience with breaking the crust, especially in Tea Tree country and I don't mean the costal type.
It is just like Coles. Down, down ,down, down and the heavier you are the more you suffer.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:47

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:47
Bob Y,
if you come through the Curry at night in the next few days, no exhaust brakes please.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 20:54

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 20:54
Ha ha, no worries, Slow.

Won't be me for a few months. "Retired" for the winter months while The Boss gets over her double knee replacements.

Usually go through the 'Curry late afternoons, both ways, unless there's been a drama. If it's late I'm like the proverbial church mouse, but the bloody truck is like.....ah, rowdy.

Cya,
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 22:04

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 22:04
Bantam,
sorry but you don't seem to have much experience with breaking the crust, especially in Tea Tree country and I don't mean the costal type.
It is just like Coles. Down, down ,down, down and the heavier you are the more you suffer.

Yeh well that would be the wrong place then wouldn't it.

If the track is not suitable for a 4 tonne truck....well it probably wont be suitable for a land cruser towing a 3 tonne rolling gin palace either.

Not everybody wants to "do the hard tracks" and in a vehicle that big there are a number of issues that a sensible person would consider before taking it certain places......I know several places that you would not get under the overhanging timber.

bit with the carrying and towing capacity dragging a jimni or or maybe a hovercraft behind is a reasonable thing.

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Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:22

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 19:22
There is no such think as the perfect rig, they all bog, they all break down, they all get overtaken. if you are happy with yours, I reckon that's all that matters.
Me, I love my Iveco, I think you could do a lot worse. And its not as costly as some allude to
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Reply By: Phil D1 - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 23:29

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 23:29
Hi,
I have a single cab which I am converting into an Expedition Vehicle. I had an Isuzu, but the Iveco is very capable off road, has 4.5T or 5.2 T GVM with towing of 3.5T. 3 locking diffs, parabolic suspension, etc make it a great vehicle for the money.
There have been a few relatively small teething matters with them, but the owners collectively and with Iveco Australia are finding fixes. There are aftermarket mods becoming available increasingly, and there are many ways they can be built up.
I suggest you look at the German builders such as Bocklet, Bimobil, Unicat and Exploryx who use them to build expedition vehicles.
Marcus Tuck has a blog on his Bocklet which you could google, and he is in Africa at present.
A lot is/has already been written about them, so google will be a good friend.
3 year 200000 warranty.
Phil
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Reply By: Going Bush - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:32

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:32
Ive had mine now for 26,000 has not missed a beat.

My only criticism of the vehicle is that is comes with a small 90L fuel tank, And the European penchance for long service intervals.

The intervals are either 12month, 40,000km or 800 engine hours whichever comes first
or for heavy off road use half those.

I chose to have mine serviced at 20k and it came in at under $900 (cheaper than a Landrover service) no issues found, brakes wearing well, front pads still have 18mm and rear shoes 10mm

I got a box of genuine spares before leaving town
air filter $85
cabin filter $33
fuel filter $80
Alt belt $68
AC belt $45
Oil Filt $44

Iveco worldwide Warranty is 3 years 200,000km including Australia wide roadside assistance / towing.

Best touring vehicle and by far the most capable 4x4 that Ive owned. The truck is amazingly quiet and smooth, very economical , uses less fuel than either Landcruiser (1Hz and 1HDT) Ive had whilst towing, about on par with the Landrover Td5

On considering the purchase the height issue was our main stumbling block as Val has Foot issues and had trouble getting into the Defender but the step arraignment on the Iveco actually makes entry / exit very easy, no problem at all.

Visibilty is wonderful. Outback touring from a meter higher gives a whole new perspective you can see over the Spinnifex and grasses rather than driving through a 'tunnel' The excellent mirrors are available in long arm if your towing, or short arm.
Turning circle is a little larger than a Defender 110 and better than a 130 and parking into a regular sized carpark is easy, your bodywork is also high enough up so that other cars doors / runaway shopping trolleys will never dent you.

Also a previous post inferred that the engine might not be as long lived as a Jap engine, most people might be surprised to find that the new 3.0 L Fuso Canter engine is infact the 3.0 EEV Fiat / Iveco engine but with a single turbo rather than twin turbo.








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Follow Up By: Going Bush - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:31

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:31
Forgot to mention, a bit more background on the truck, The Iveco Daily 4x4 is built by SCAM Trucks http://www.scamtrucks.it

under licence from Steyer, http://www.sti-steyr.com/sti-tactical/light-tactical/ltv-hd/

a well respected supplier of Millitary hardware,

also check out Bremach T-Rex

the only part in common with the 2WD Iveco Daily is the Cab and Engine, and some electricals. Earlier generation 4x4 Dailys are a totally different vehicle with IFS and can not be used as a comparison,
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 14:54

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 14:54
Interesting note...I was working preparation for an event a few weeks ago and one of the castlemain XXXX reps turned up in a very nicley decked out Iveco.

I sure it will be seen around...ya cant miss it big black and with XXXX 6 heet figh on the sides.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 21:09

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 21:09
Pop,

Been a bit interested in these 4x4 Dailys also, since someone mentioned them on this forum.

Have seen a video on Youtube, by Alan Whiting, where he gave them a pretty good rap. Did see the odd one when I was trundling along the highway, mainly dual cabs.

As I recall there was mention of these, by a contributor to the forum, Sand man by name(no, not "our" Sandman from SA), who lived in the Alice. He seemed pretty pleased with his, and waxed lyrical on its many virtues. Of course, as suggested by others above, no one can vouch for longevity, or perhaps more correctly, a trouble free life.

If you did weaken, at a later date, may I suggest that you keep your current ute. Sounds too good to go to someone who won't appreciate its finer qualities.

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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 22:07

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 22:07
OH BTW, for those that are interested, and in Brisbane there was a nice tidy white unimog with a flat tray for sale outside the garrage on the corner of Rochadale road when I came thru there monday.


YEH but just fir sale and a phone number.....no price.

I supose if you have to ask the price you cant afford it.

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:25

Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:25
Too true about the price, Bantam :-)

Few months back, a 'Mog sat on the forecourt of BP in Cloncurry, for about a fortnight. Both rear axles removed, along with all the drop box parts.

Obviously their spare parts backup isn't as fast as Caterpillar?

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