HID Head light inserts
Submitted: Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 13:29
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Roachie
Have any forumites tried out those new HID headlight inserts put out by Photon?
I think they run out at about $1,100- a set!!!, but then again you can spend a fair amount on Piranha looms and fancy globes too.
My problem is that I run a set of Lightforce 240 Blitz lights with my standard Nissan headlights. When I have to dip down for oncoming traffic, it's a case of "wherethefugarewe????for about 5 seconds.
Thanks for any advice.
Cheers,
Roachie
Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Hi Roachie,
The last HID inserts I looked at actually didn't have a method for dipping to low beam, so they didn't comply with ADRs. They were just a globe replacement with an adapter to fit into a H4 socket, and you then had to mount and connect the ballast to operate the HID bulbs.
HID headlights that are fitted as standard to some high end cars has a like a shutter or blind that physically restricts light output at low beam.
I'm not familiar with the Photon kit though.
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Follow Up By: Roachie - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:34
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:34
Savvas,
They've just reviewed the Photon jobbies in the latest issue of 4WD Monthly magazine which I got in the mail today. They do have a mechanical feature which slides a type of "shade" up/down the outer filament to facilitate high/low beam. It sounds okay, but I'm not sure what method the "slide" works on (could be small electric motor or a small solenoid etc).
The beauty of these HID's is that they draw so little power (about 35 watts I think) and there is no issue with heat build up either; plus they give off a brighter, whiter light (they should call them "Colgate", eh??)
Anyway, I'll dream on....
Cheers,
Roachie
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Hi Roachie,
The last HID inserts I looked at actually didn't have a method for dipping to low beam, so they didn't comply with ADRs. They were just a globe replacement with an adapter to fit into a H4 socket, and you then had to mount and connect the ballast to operate the HID bulbs.
HID headlights that are fitted as standard to some high end cars has a like a shutter or blind that physically restricts light output at low beam.
I'm not familiar with the Photon kit though.
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 16:13
Hi Roachie,
The last HID inserts I looked at actually didn't have a method for dipping to low beam, so they didn't comply with ADRs. They were just a globe replacement with an adapter to fit into a H4 socket, and you then had to mount and connect the ballast to operate the HID bulbs.
HID headlights that are fitted as standard to some high end cars has a like a shutter or blind that physically restricts light output at low beam.
I'm not familiar with the Photon kit though.
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Reply By: Boobook - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 17:00
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 17:00
Roachie,
I have an NM Pajero and installed replacement HID headlights. Like the Nissan it has H4 bulbs. I looked at higher wattage bulbs but was put off them as the Pajero ( and I think the Nissans) have polycarbonate lenses and they can melt and discolour. ( look at the warning on the box on Navara bulbs). I even tried the phillips +50% bulbs but thought they were only a marginal improvement from the standard bulbs.
After deliberating about the price I bit the bullet. I am so glad I did. There is simply no comparison. I would estimate that the HID's are about 3 times as
bright! They are simply outstanding. They give off a broad, clean light that floods the road.
Low beam is great around town and in traffic at night and high beam blows you away. Every time I turn on the headlights I think they are great and totally worth it. No eyestrain ever again and when you dip from high beam /
driving lights you can still clearly see the road. The sides of the road are
well illuminated in low as
well as high beam. In high beam the road is lit up about twice as far as the standard lights and compliment
the spot IPF 900's I have. You could use both Lightforces as spots and let the headlights fill the road around them.
They are Hi beam and low beam. There is an actuator that moves the light about 6 mm to place it in the positions where the low beam and high beam filaments are in a standard bulb.
Electrically they were easy to fit and use the standard loom. Mechanically the back of the assembly is larger than a bulb and the spring that Mistubishi uses would not fit. I made up a small flange out of thin steel to hold it in place. It worked
well and took about an hour.
The ones I got are sold here by
http://www.xenonoz.com but I got them in HK as they were about $840 for the pair. They are Hella globes and I believe the original ones for BMW and Audi.
Watch out for 1)Korean ones ( supposedly not reliabe) , 2)Ones that do Hi / Lo with a reflector ( not a clean cut off on low beam).
If you can stomach the money you will never regret your decision.
Boobook
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Follow Up By: Boobook - Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 17:03
Friday, Feb 27, 2004 at 17:03
Correction the globes ( and Ballast) are Phillips.Boobook
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