Is FRED a scammer?

Is it a chopped wagon..or a ute with some sheet metal mig/welded in/onto it..?

Hi WH,
It was originally a Patrol Wagon......nothing scam about it.
Cheers

that would be a great idea, give him your bank details 8-)

I believe the way the scam works is that the bloke who picks the truck up lets the other end know he has it. The scammer then withdraws his transfer from your account. You then have neither the money or the truck. If you want to go through with the deal then withdraw the money from your Paypal account before you part with your goods.

they have no intention of collecting the truck.
The money doesn't go in your paypal account

How does he withdraw the money from your account? You can deposit into another persons account but how can you withdraw it?

That's why I suggested a bank transfer. It's a PayPal scam. If you are worried about the bank details then set up an account with no money it. Withdraw the money as soon as it's there then hand the car over. The scammer won't do it I bet.
Wizzer

Alby, I'm not sure how Paypal works but I remember the scam being detailed in EO some months back. The scam involves getting back their money plus your goods.. If anyone has finer details on the fraud then they may come forward.

The scam involves them getting back an "over payment" to the value of the freight, not the advertised goods.

I think the most common one has nothing to do with your goods and they are not interested in what you are selling
The whole aim of the game is to gain your trust and trick you into thinking they have paid money into your account plus an additional amount for a third party freighting or handling company or whatever other reason that sounds plausible. They would then get you to pay that third party from your account thinking they had already provided those funds to you. It is usually a Western Union bank account that they ask you to pay into.
They don't want your vehicle as it is a trackable / traceable entity plus they are not even in Australia to collect it

Scam mostly works like this ...
You agree, give them PayPal details
They make payment to the account
You accept payment and hand over goods
They then claim non-delivery from PayPal and
get their money refunded and you are left with zilch, no money, no goods.

Yes but PayPal does not give a refund without first checking the sellers side of the story to confirm he situation
I went through a PayPal dispute myself and thought they were quite thorough with their investigation before refunding me my money

Last I heard of gaylord (or one of it's kin) it was on an oil tanker in the Indian ocean, and it wanted to buy the cement mixer I was selling on ebay, for its father.(thanks very bloody much!)I am fairly convinced it doesent have one. I have tried to not be sexist.
string.

Hi Allein,

Thanks for your concern about the price but with respect I must disagree with you. I believe your research is deficient in that you may have not priced the exact model and/or quoted the cheaper 3.0litre TD model. I never put much faith in redbook numbers or any other valuation. But if you do use “value your car” on Carsales.com the figure for a 4.2TD 2005 Patrol ST L GUIV is $26,800 - $30,700 for a private sale (this is the exact model mine was originally). Suggested Kms for a 2005 model range from 140,000-230,000. Mine is about midway.
But if you go to carsales and search for 2005 models of that description listed for sale you get 15 vehicles for sale. The top 10 have Kms under 200,000 and range in price from a low of $42,980 to a high of $53,500. Thus my point is that the majority of sellers are asking prices way in excess of any redbook or value your car valuations.
(tradein prices are irrelevant…I am selling privately not trading in).
If you look at straight 2005 cab/chassis with the 4.2 TD there are many for sale around $39,000 to $40,000 with similar kms.
Beside all of those comparisons mine has just had $1300 spent on 4 brand new Brst697’s tyres and has many $1,000s of other “fruit”. I know you never get much money back an accessories but the fact as they have some value.
At the end of the day market forces will determine the sale price. I have set my starting price but obviously there is always negotiation on these things.
To answer your question…insurance is not an issue. Just insure for agreed value.
Cheers

My mate also received bogus pay pal receipt, they tried real hard, when it comes to your hard earned coin, trust should be a dirty word...