alko electronic stability contro

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 03, 2014 at 21:20
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sorry every one at times we travel on unsealed roads towing and otherwise.i have heard that the esc on the tow vehicle should be turned off.i have found no reference in the hand books of the two previous vehiclesi have had with esc and non in the forum.maybe i worry too much? thanks in advance brian
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Reply By: olcoolone - Thursday, Jul 03, 2014 at 21:26

Thursday, Jul 03, 2014 at 21:26
ESC should be on all the time........especialy on high speed dirt, the only time it should be turned off is when in low range 4 wheel drive..... Both our Ford Ranger and our 200 series automatically turns it of in low range.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, Jul 03, 2014 at 21:27

Thursday, Jul 03, 2014 at 21:27
What has Alko stability control got to do with the vehicle?
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:21

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:21
Are you talking about the ESC on the vehicle or the van?
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Follow Up By: discovery1652/4 - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:28

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:28
hi PeterD on the vehicle. the question was an after thought that i tried to get on my original posting.
i am new to the site and messed up.
the answer to the question above yours is nothing to do with the alko esc.thanks, brian
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 17:00

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 17:00
Seeing I mentioned the Range and the 200 series ESC may suggest I'm talking about the one on the Ranger and the 200 series...... yes the vehicle ESC.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 17:11

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 17:11
The OP mentioned ALKO, their ESC is only found on vans. I thought we should clear up what is required to be answered.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 08:20

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 08:20
discovery1652/4 posted
"i have heard that the esc on the tow vehicle should be turned off.i have found no reference in the hand book"

Tow vehicle is usually something that tows something.....
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Reply By: discovery1652/4 - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 05:44

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 05:44
none i am new to the site and tried to get this after thought into
my original posting. thanks
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Follow Up By: baznpud (tassie) - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:15

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:15
what you do is hit the post follow up button on the bottom of your thread.
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Reply By: John Paine - Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 23:04

Friday, Jul 04, 2014 at 23:04
I have alco esc on 16' caravan. Not good at slow speeds on rough tracks. Will lock brakes, need to stop too reset. Driving near Murray river on muddy track the brakes locked a few times when bouncing around. Not happy.
Spoken to Alko they new of the problem. To fix need to switch 2 wires on the trailer plug, he said a alcohol service person could do.
At high speeds would recommend.
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Follow Up By: discovery1652/4 - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 05:57

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 05:57
Thanks John Paine I think I will go ahead and get the esc fitted to my van. cheers Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - PhilD_NT - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:22

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:22
ALKO advise that the wiring to the trailer (specific to the ESC power feed) should be via an Anderson Plug (or similar) so that it can be unplugged in off road or similar rough conditions. You can't just swap wiring on the normal vehicle trailer plug.
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Follow Up By: John Paine - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 11:14

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 11:14
I haven't done yet but my plan it to run wires back to dash board so can be turned off when needed.
One of the areas it plays up most is when bush camping as there can be ruts, as the van wobbles around on come the brakes.
the trailer connector that was instaled for me was a 12 pin flat.
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Follow Up By: discovery1652/4 - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 11:19

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 11:19
thanks PhilD and John Paine, Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - PhilD_NT - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 19:37

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 19:37
We ordered the ESC fitted at the factory but despite a number of attempts we couldn't get any info as to how Jayco were going to wire it up. Going on the ALKO website info I chose to wire the car up for an Anderson Plug for the ESC feed. Reasons were to allow for disconnection of it alone and the ALKO requirement for a dedicated 30 Amp capable feed that I reasoned was rather high for the 12 pin plug pin sizes. I used 6 B&S twin core for the car side wiring and fed it from an auto resetting circuit breaker. I've since been told by an ESC trained person that it shouldn't be auto resetting or should just have a normal fuse (now changed to a plain circuit breaker). By the way, he also told me that the reason for the 2 LED's on the "A" frame ESC unit are just a case of redundancy. When we picked up the van from the Dealer we found that Jayco had wired it up to the 12 pin trailer connector and the Dealer wasn't interested in changing it to an Anderson Plug. Told us it was our problem basically. We drove off and I changed it in the Caravan Park to match our Anderson Plug. The factory wiring had also been through the small pins of the 12 pin plug, not the heavier duty one's.
Now back home I've since changed it to a Redarc isolator in the engine bay so that when the engine isn't running then the ESC feed is isolated. This isolator also feeds the tub mounted Redarc DC/DC unit and the dual battery. I did this because on leaving South on the way back home we had a 3 hour stop with all still connected up and something flattened the main battery. It hasn't repeated itself but we no longer need to constantly disconnect the Anderson ESC, Anderson to fridge and 12 pin connector to ensure isolation. ALKO stated that the ESC feed at rest should only be a few milliamps so it shouldn't have done it. The other Anderson plug for the van fridge is fed from the dual battery so should have only flattened that one, which it didn't.
At all stops before leaving we checked that the green LED's were on for the ESC but somewhere in the last 110 km to home this failed. The next time the car and van were connected up this was noticed and it took some time to track it down. A multi pin connector underneath the van had come apart and as the ESC and the Breaksafe are interconnected both were inactive. Not a nice feeling. The offending connector was up above a shield so I doubt that it was a case of debris hitting it, just poorly assembled. An extra LED display on the car dash might be nice.

Phil
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Follow Up By: discovery1652/4 - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 20:29

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 20:29
Thanks Phil that info is very informative,I have the car wired with an anderson plug to run the van fridge with a redarc isolator in the car to avoid having a flat battery
when stopped.When I have the alko fitted to the van it will be from the fridge circuit and I will get the circuit fitted with a manual isolator swith to give, me the option to turn the alko off should it be necessary, thanks again Phil. Brian
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Follow Up By: discovery1652/4 - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 20:35

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 20:35
Phil the manaul isolator for the alko will be after the fridge wiring but still from the anderson plug wiring.Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - PhilD_NT - Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 21:37

Saturday, Jul 05, 2014 at 21:37
Be careful as ALKO's requirement is that it be fed from the vehicle main battery.
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