advice on buying duel cab 4x4 2009 onwards

With the above specs required, search comes up with, (carsales)
Hilux - Most over 100000k's, up to 190000k's up to 6 yrs old
Mazda - All previous gen. 100000K plus
Navara - much lower K's ( Although one shows 761000K's. ) haha.
Triton. New. 5 yr warranty, 10 year drivetrain.
I wouldnt buy one for a tourer, but hard to go past considering competition, and requirements asked for.

Steve.

And it,s over 100 grand for a 5 year old Bentley but you can have a new Hyundai for under 30.......

There is a reason why some vehicles are cheaper and it's not because the more expensive ones are turning a bigger profit.

With nearly ZERO percent interest being offered by many manufactures it really a no brainier to buy the best, if you keep it for 5 years I can guarantee a 5 year old Hilux will return the same or if not better resale % amount then a Triton or some of the others.

So end of the day the Hilux costs maybe a bit less then a Triton to own.....

The 29K is off the street price, have to add in canopy cost of course.

Steve

The Triton is normally $31K, but I think they are offerring a $2k cashback offer at the moment. Even at $31k there is a big gap between the Triton and the rest. The money you save could could get you a heap of extras: Canopy, performance chip, suspension upgrades, etc. With a 5 year warranty (10 on drivetrain) it is amazing value. As for getting what you pay for, you certainly do, the rest only give a 3 year warranty.

If you go with one of the others the best option is sell your Commode privately and buy the ute through a broker, brokers get amazing deals (with no cost or obligation to buy) and the vehicle is delivered to your door.

Another other option is to ring around the dealerships and play the part of broker yourself.

I got $3000 off a new I30 using a broker, The next car I played broker myself and got $2750 off plus floor mats. Unfortunately as soon as you walk into a dealership you have lost - it is their turf. Do the wheeling and dealing via the phone, make them chase you.

Matt go and speak to a good accountant first before making ANY decisions, they will tell you the best way of financing and claiming expenses plus any tax breaks.

Register a business name and a ".com.au" domain name.

Make sure you have email hosting linked to your domain name like "matt@gonamakeamillion.com.au"

Business names rego -
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Domain name rego and email hosting -
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Another really good thing is register a trademak on you business name and logo, this should be a must as it protects your intellectual property -
http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/get-the-right-ip/trade-marks/apply-for-a-trade-mark/



Good luck in your adventure.....

Yes good advice from Olcoolone
Before deciding on what vehicle to buy you need to establish how you are going to buy it , method of payment,in a business name etc. An accountant will advise you on the most suitable way to suit your personal situation.
If you need some funding for this new business venture you may well be better off financing ( leasing) your new vehicle and hang on to your cash to use for other business expenses as an example

Good luck with it all

not really mate. i figure i want something common. part availability and cheaper parts and accessories.

i drive a truck for a living. if only nissan made their cars as well as the trucks. i drove a nissan 92 mdl for 6 years. its got almost 1000,000 km on it and has never missed a beat(and still going), while i watched all the hino, izuzu etc in the fleet do clutches and water pumps, slave cylinders, gearboxes etc.
I'm now in a late mdl nissan and I'm confident i could circumnavigate austraila 10 times and it wouldn't miss a beat.

just on bang for buck I'm really leaning towards the triton and possibly navara and maybe a heavily accessorised hilux if cheap enough and low kays.

so none has any major issues with these vehicles? all on par?

You gotta go with whatever you are happy with mate. As a now happily retired diesel fitter I could recount as many good luck and bad luck stories as you could bare to listen to about any of the major brands of trucks. If you are serious about an auto I doubt you will have any worries with clutch issues. Well not the manual gearbox type.

As far as Navara and Triton dual cab ute type vehicles go they would be at the bottom of my choice list.
Mazda bt50 seem pretty good.
I would go with HiLux or D-Max as first choices but as you don't like D-Max I guess you could scratch that off your list.
If you want ease of parts availability maybe add Colorado to the list.

You could also get a nice new Great Wall for that price too...(;-))

Good luck with whatever you choose.

You wont do any better than that. They actually lose money at that price. It is the advertised drive away. Walk in / walk out.
As for your Commy, I sold my 10 year old one with 1/2 the K's, and got nothing for it. Probably only worth a couple of hundered for them to take it away for you.
Steve

Hi Matt
good idea playing the dealer yourself
find the car you like give them all your details then just wait until the end of the month to buy if they have a target to reach (which they all do, personal target, dealer target and manufacture targets, the last one can save you the most because if they hit this one the manufacturer gives the dealer a kick back ) you will find that dealer begging for you money just watch out for the hard sell techniques

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Having had fleet vehicles of that era I'd agree. Bt50/ranger or dmax/Colorado (they were the same back then) are proving to be the longest lived of the lot. Auto box for towing and you won't go wrong. Hiluxes are lasting too, but as usual they aren't as good as the premium over the rest of the market might suggest.

With that much weight I would be concerned about the triton. Others don't seem to have as bad a reputation for chassis failures although aftermarket air bags can destroy any vehicles chassis.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=99859

"Might go to a few dealerships and test drive some"

Yes good idea, we do that when we are looking as we change work vehicles every few years.

It's surprising how we have really liked one model only to be put off by something simple like handbrake, a switch location or the feel of the door handles or steering wheel....... something we could not live with day in or day out.

Another good thing to do is take a 5 year old model for a drive and compare how it feels and the condition of body and trim against a new one.

This will give you a good idea of what yours would be like in 5 years time.

The advantage of buying new or near new is the option of a factory extended warranty.

Another good option many be the Ford Ranger XLS, we have a new XLT and love it..... with the Ranger you get more carrying and towing capacity, a fantastic 3.2lt 5cyl diesel and six speed manual or auto.

The Ranger would be the pick of the crop at the moment.

According to the motoring writers, the Ranger is top of the heap at the moment. As the BT50 is a clone, I guess that makes it top of the heap as well. The Hilux is trailing well behind now, mostly due to spec I've read.

EOFY is over, if you want to save wait another six months and buy a 2014 plated vehicle.

Best way of getting a good deal is get to know the salesperson and dealership personally plus the other advantage is you might find a dealer who needs to clear a particular vehicle due to a lost sale, change of order or end of month quick sale of a stock vehicle.

DON'T EMAIL THEM, emails are so impersonal and many sales persons will take the stance if your to lazy to come in why should I give you a good price if your shopping around..... your not a regularly known or fleet customer yet.

The other thing with email and text is it takes 3 days and 200 back a forth messages to get an understanding and response whereby in person it can be done in 20 minutes.

Another good option is to look a a demo vehicle.

Brokers are OK but a little foot and phone work can usually get a better deal

We get good deals by knowing the fleet manager and the dealership, when we go in they know they have one chance and on chance only with no negotiations, we will get estimates from a few dealers just to make sure they are on the ball.

The other thing you can do is get a mate to phone you whilst negotiating and start talking price to your mate as if he was a salesperson from another dealer....... then cut the meeting short by telling them you have to go look at another vehicle at a good price.

Don't be stupid with the price you go in at and chances are you will get the deal....... if the vehicle is $42,000 on a screwed down price, don't go in at $38,000 as the sales person will know your full of #^%@, but if you went in at $41,000 and got them to throw in accessories that may add up to $1000 rrp chances are the deal will be meet.

Don't take the attitude your doing them a favour and they want to sell you a vehicles....... you need them to do you a favour with the price and service and you need to buy a vehicle. If to aggressive they will just walk away and sell to the next person who walks in....... a ll dealerships have vehicle allocation numbers of the amount of vehicles they can purchase, if they are getting to the end of their allocation they are better holding of waiting for someone to pay more for the vehicle.

When you have made your mind up on what vehicle make and model you want ask to borrow one over night or over a week end and clock up some K's driving it in the city and country and in the day and night.