NP Pajero manual trans - reverse too fast

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 13:24

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Member - Russell

Hi all
Have a 2003 Did Pajero with manual box. Love everything about the car except tring to reverse a trailer with it. Reverse gear is way too fast. I've had troopies and 80's and thanks to the lower gearing, could back a trailer anywhere I wanted to, no fuss. With the Paj, I find I have to do an awful lot of clutch slipping to get it where I want it.
Have tried going into low range and won't make that mistake again on hard ground. Damn thing wound up so quick it took 20 minutes of cursing to get the front diff light to go out. Yeah, I know....dumb idea.
Does anyone know if lower gearing can be installed just for reverse? Would that affect all other gears and forward speed as well?
Is it possible to re-wire it so I can use low range, without the front diff going in as well?
Anyone know how much grovelling I would have to do in my finance application to the Minister For No More Gadgets and Stern Looks?
Taking shelter now under my Anti-Paj Comment Umbrella as I wait for it to start raining unkind words......;-)

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Reply By: Russell [Pajero] - Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 14:15

Reply By: Member - Peter- Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 20:24

Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 20:24

I'm not having ago at your choice of vehicle but this is a prime example of the way most 4wd's are going, basically do you want a light truck (troopies, base 80's, Defender etc or do you want a heavy car (most of the rest). The line between car and 4wd is getting more blurred every day. Troopies even have fast glass and central locking now. They should have had the turbo motor 15 years ago.
Manufacturers are making and selling what the mass market wants, people that want a heavy duty 4wd that will absorb a bit of hard work are finding that as they are loaded up with more car like features the less they are suitable for what they were supposedly designed for.
Your Paj and most of the lighter 4wd's will probably haul your van much better than a base model vehicle (80, troopy, 60 series etc) but for how long? Manufacturer are in the business of selling cars, if they make it too strong customers keep them for too long, remember a 5 y/o vehicle in Japan is worth next to nothing.

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Follow Up By: Member - Russell - Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 23:43

Saturday, Feb 28, 2004 at 23:43

Peter
Thanks, genuinely, for taking the time to reply. It is always appreciated here. However, may I hazard a guess you might have missed the point. I fully appreciate the difference between light and heavy, having owned 3 x 75 series troopies, 1 x 80series, 1 x 98 GU 2.8 Patrol, 1 x 3.0 2001 Patrol and now the Paj. All since March '99. Please...don't ask why, it's way too complicated.
Compared to all the previous 4'bys, the Paj is by far the quickest, best handling, quietest (cruising), most powerful, and light years ahead in economy at the same time.
On the other hand ,it won't carry half the load a troopy can, can't follow an 80 or Patrol everywhere (but you would be surprised how far it can...) and I never lift the bonnet between services coz there's nothing under there that I can understand now.
The question relates more to the fact that this a brilliant car for the type of driving I do now, but has one annoying aspect. That is, as one example, my driveway at home is long, very steep and concrete. Hence, I can't use low range for backing the trailer coz the centre diff locks, causing wind up in the drive line. Idling is not an option because of the steepness, "clutch-slip" method results in a lot of stress and burning smells. No-one can can convince me that doesn't matter.
Hope I have explained it better now. Thanks again for your reply.