Brakes
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:28
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Member - P B (WA)
My Toyota 79 2013/14series has just had a 25,000 service and i am told that the rear brake pads are almost worn out -only 3mm of pad is left.The previous service they were checked at over 5mm and in "good" condition. iI am told this may be from carrying heavy loads, i do have this set up as a camper with a rooftop tent on top and i have just returned from a trip up the Kimberly (9500km) in 6 weeks mostly off the bitumen, longish trip but of course not much braking or stop and go when touring. Did have problems with ABS not working on corrugations (warning light comes on).
Would appreciate any ideas or help
Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:34
Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:34
P B,
When we lived on a station, on Diamantina River, a few years back, had 2 79 series ute's, a 105 wagon converted to dual cab, plus our own 80 series wagon.
The work vehicles averaged between 25 - 30K on a set of brake pads, depending who was driving :-). The 105 seemed to be harder on pads, but was often pretty heavy, loaded with motorbikes, avgas and bodies. When caught in muddy, slushy conditions, the 105 would chew rear pads out almost over 100 clicks or so.
If your ute is
well loaded with camper & RTT, then the proportioning valve will be allowing more pressure to rear calipers = more wear. Dust and gritty road surfaces contribute to increased wear too.
We used to
check pad wear every 5K.......fronts are easily visible, but rear need either wheel removal, or use torch and small mirror. The result if allowed to wear onto the discs, or worse, can be very expensive!!!
Bob
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Reply By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:59
Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:59
You should get more than that out of a set of pads under normal conditions, one killer of pads and rotors is mud and constant driving on dirt roads..... think of it as sand paper.
If you think of the pad having 8-10mm of material and you have worn 2 and a bit mm's of in 25 thou that's not bad going and pretty normal for a heavy vehicle but in your case getting to 3mm pad wear in 25 thou is a bit excessive and especial 5mm at the last service.
Most of the breaking comes from the front and the rears are trailing only, have you got a lift kit and is the load proportioning valve on the rear diff adjusted correctly.
Most factory pads wear very
well.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 13:01
Wednesday, Jul 30, 2014 at 13:01
Should read.....
"case getting down to 3mm pad wear in 25 thou is a bit excessive and especial down to 5mm at the last service"
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Follow Up By: Member - P B (WA) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 15:52
Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 15:52
I dont have a lift kit just air bags supporting rear end sag,
apparently i dont have a proportioning valve on this model as the ABS makes the allowance !!!
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 20:36
Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 20:36
PB I have the same vehicle with ABS and there is a load proportioning valve on
mine
My pads lasted 50k before changing them
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 22:28
Thursday, Jul 31, 2014 at 22:28
A load proportioning valve is needed on all vehicles that may have a large difference in weight from empty to full. Mostly commercial based vehicles.
It regulates to amount of brake differential from front to rear.......heavier load more braking to the rear and less weight less braking to the rear..... It does not alter the efficiency of the front brakes, only the rear.
It balances out the braking as the weight is being transferred helping to keep the vehicle level.
ABS will only stop lockup and will not proportion.
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