Ute Selection

Submitted: Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 16:11
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I am looking at buying a new ute. I am undecided between a Holden Colorado LX Crew Cab or the Isuzu LS-M crew cab..

I don't do hard core 4wDing but mostly towing a small caravan or trailer. Maybe some rough tracks and beach driving occasionally.

Has anybody any comments on either of them?
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Reply By: CSeaJay - Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 16:56

Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 16:56

Based on your use you appear to not be hardcore in any task. In that case and in my opinion go for the ute you like best. There is a lot to be said for getting the one that looks, feels and smells right for you. Take a decent test drive on both. You obviously already narrowed it down to two (from a cast of many in this segment)
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Reply By: Ross M - Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 21:39

Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 21:39
New cars all drive OK and so isn't an indicator of much.

The problem rate is a telling factor and one of the makes you have mentioned has plenty of problems because of the company which controls the quality in the vehicle.

The service costs are another thing to look at.
Any fixed price servicing can possibly not deliver quality lubricants to the vitals of your new vehicle. Often, (hard to prove though) some service items are not done because it is fixed price servicing. Who will know it isn't done eh?

Do some searches for problems with both makes and see what turns up.

One make will show plenty.

That may decide which one will be your choice of new vehicle.
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Follow Up By: William 1 - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 17:52

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 17:52
Thanks for the comment. I checked out both vehicles and found a heap of bad comments and good about both of them although I think I have now got a better handle on making a decision.

I note that you are reluctant to start a war by making a specific comment yourself which is understandable (and praiseworthy).
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Reply By: Member - Geoffrey N (NSW) - Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 21:50

Monday, Aug 11, 2014 at 21:50
They're both GM but it's hard to beat the Isuzu. I've had a Rodeo (rebadged Isuzu) for almost 9 years and it has been far better than I ever expected. CSR, 4 crossings of the Simpson (including the Madigan), Anne Beadell x 3, Connie Sue, Gunbarrel, Talawana and lots of others. Nothing broken, great performance and great fuel economy. This is how it handled Big Red about 3 weeks ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvYJ8xpzqvc
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 08:49

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 08:49
They are not both GM.
GM as usual (long history of same) get aquire other makes and do their thing with it. The Colorado is again done like that. They even claim/call the engine a DURAMAX which in fact has no connection with the engine design called DURAMAX.
Merely, recognition marketing by GM.
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Follow Up By: Bludge - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 14:37

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 14:37

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Follow Up By: Member - Geoffrey N (NSW) - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 19:38

Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 19:38
(PS) The Rodeo is a 5 speed manual diesel, no lift.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 19, 2014 at 08:10

Tuesday, Aug 19, 2014 at 08:10
I am in the same boat as William 1. During my research I found the D Max has a reliable Isuzu engine with a fairly flat torque curve. The Colorado, as said, has a European engine with a different torque curve. The sharper torque curve is why some vehicles are going to more gears, so they can keep in the torque band.
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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:55

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:55
I know the Isuzu is down on horsepower compared to the European engined Colorado, but I'd take it anyway. Per the above post, I had the 4jji Colorado (all Isuzu with the same engine as the new one) for 6 years and it is an extremely trustworthy setup with the right amount of power every time.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 16:21

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2014 at 16:21
Just my personal opinion. I would go for the D-Max. A 5 year warranty can't be a bad thing.

Isuzu have been making some very good larger trucks for a while now so should have a handle on things automotive. Having said that, there appear to be a heap of happy Colorado owners out there.

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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:52

Wednesday, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:52
Both are very good 4x4's.

Beware of the Isuzu:
My mate purchased one for the similar purpose as you. He is a grey nomad a halls a caravan all over SA.
His first trip along a long corrugated road, his dash fell to bits, all the screws rattled out.
Easy fix and no problems since.

You mentioned "maybe some rough tracks"
Beware of the Colorado:
Another mate has the Colorado, even with a 2" lift he has clearance issue's going over sharp peaks. In comparison a Triton with a 2" lift just clears but the Colorado will get stuck on the peak and either have to snatch or winch him over.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Aug 13, 2014 at 21:14

Wednesday, Aug 13, 2014 at 21:14
Remember that isuzu is primarly a pretty good diesel engine manufacturer that makes pretty fair vehicles and they dominate the light to medium truck market in this country for very good reasons.

GM on the other hand have a very long history of half baked designs and lately other peoples engines

Its a no brainer...the isuzu no question

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Follow Up By: Slow one - Tuesday, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:24

Tuesday, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:24
Funny how the wheel turns. I drove a couple of 6x6 and 6x4 Isuzu trucks and they were copies of GMC trucks and engines.

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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:09

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:09
They may have been coppies...but bet ya the workmansip was better.

The japs did and still do plenty of good coppying...most of the early jap vehicles where a coppy of something.

Early nissan patroll motor nearly identical to a 6 cylinder austin motor..but more reliable.
Early toyota crown was a whole restyled coppy of a merc.

and it goes on.

Any apprentce starts by coppying a master.

Now the japs are being coppied themselves.

Some of the chinese coppies of small Honda engines are so close the honda parts fit.

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Reply By: Knothome - Monday, Aug 18, 2014 at 20:40

Monday, Aug 18, 2014 at 20:40
The Isuzu would be my chioce from them 2, I'm going to get the ranger in a couple of weeks.
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