Challenger vs Prado

Okay correct. I should give more information. We have a Jayco Expanda which we tow behind a 105 series Landcruiser and it is time for my wife to retire her Magna wagon. So I guess it will be a school bus, tow a boat or van up to 2000kgs to a few camping locations here and there. The main laps are done in the Landcruiser. So back to the $25-$30k saving. I am not sure even it was going to be our only car whether I could fork out the extra cash. If Mitsubishi put their price up by $10k it would all make more sense.

They are two different vehicles and as you have the Landcruiser as an option on the harder trips pocket the cash if you are happy with a Challenger for all other aspects.
No point spending more than necessary if a cheaper vehicle meets your needs

Aren't they just wagon versions of the hilux and the triton with coil rear ends and tarted up inside a bit? Lord knows a prado rides like a loaded hilux. Being a miser I tried to force the wife into a td prado for the resale but the ride was atrocious against the SUV market that it competes in. If you can hang on a little bit, ford are bringing their wagonised ranger to the market soon which will belt the pair of them.

I tried an MUX and thought the motor was really agricultural and the ride ordinary. I wanted to like it but came away disappointed. The Colorado 7 drove a lot nicer in my opinion...I didn't really want to like it but but did so there you go. When I tried the Challenger I didn't like it at all. It was rattling and noisy as a new car.

Yes most Mitsubishi s are built to a price and until you start pulling them apart and driving them back to back you relise how much different they are to a Toyota build enjoyment and feel.... and Nissan are just as bad.

It seems Toyota build their cars a little better with better materials and designs and you pay a premium for that.... it's just some people can't see that and think Toyota a profiteering and ripping them off.

When I get asked by customers about this vehicle and that vehicle I always tell them to take a new one for a good drive back to back with the other vehicle your looking at and then take a 3 year old on and a 5 year old one and do the same...... that way you can see how the wear and age against one and other.

Reliability is all much a muchness fr the average owner..... it's the driving enjoyment, feel, finish and capability that varies.

Have a very large fleet over here who are looking at going away from the Colorado and sticking to Hilux, they have less problems and the driver and passenger prefers the Hilux.... we had a Hilux and when we were looking for a 4x4 ute we had another look at them (really wanted another Hilux)..... walked away disappointed and ended up with a Ranger.

2nd what Mark C just said. My old man has had a Challenger since he retired. He has been towing his 18ft Royal Flare van all all over the place, and he goes where all the others go. He isn't into looking for really difficult terrain, just wanted a car that will get him where he wants to go. To date, he has only put a snorkel on it. He hasn't had a problem with it.
I asked him about the Prado and he said he would rather put the other $20k he saved towards his van. He couldn't see the value, other than resale, but he doesn't intend to sell it. He also liked the long warranty on it. Just his thoughts.

Try finding a "decent" mechanic,that would recommend a Mitsubishi 4x4 over a Toyota. Wake up!

I hope you're not telling me to wake up ??

My mechanic drives a Landcruiser, but I asked him what decent 4wds are around. He said the latest Pajeros were pretty bullet proof. He does the maintenance and repairs on the cop ones in our area and has been impressed by the lack of issues. I suppose he mustn't be a decent mechanic, but even though he drives a Toyota, he isn't one eyed about it.

Gronk I am not a Challenger fan on looks but you have done a nice job with yours, looks really good

Cheers

I have since sold it and bought a 200 series..!!

But, it was a great 4wd, not a single thing wrong with it in 4 yrs, it had fact locker in the rear and an ARB front locker and it was pretty impressive where it would go..

Only reason I sold it was a good deal happened to come up on the 200......otherwise I would have been happy to keep it for a long time..

Quality of parts that make up a car these days are usually made at the same places, so saying one brand is better than another is nowhere near as relevant these days as it used to be ..

Tough looking unit Gronk and in my opinion, they don't appear as top heavy as a Prado.
Fab.